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I agree. Samsung makes great cameras and good hardware (Bixby button notwithstanding), but their software is unacceptable. I get that Samsung still dreams of gr
by apozem 9y ago
I agree. Samsung makes great cameras and good hardware (Bixby button notwithstanding), but their software is unacceptable. I get that Samsung still dreams of gradually replacing Google services with its own, thus providing a reason to buy Samsung instead of Pixel/whatever, but they're so bad at it.
- zanny 9y agoThey have a reason to buy theier stuff over Pixel phones, its called their hardware. The Pixel 2 compared to an S8 / Note 8 hardware wise is a nonstarter - the Pixel is a larger, clumsier, slower phone with a worse camera and more wasted bezel space. They actually sabotage their own hardware with their awful software. More Pixel 2s are sold than would otherwise be because people hate Touchwiz and all their bloat crap that much.
- ac29 9y agoAny sources to back up your claim that the Pixel 2 is slower than the S8? They have the exact same SoC, so performance differences should be negligible.
- paulie_a 9y agoThe pixel had the advantage of being pure, personally that is a massive advantage over slightly irrelevant hardware differences. If Samsung would fire a bunch of people and stop throwing garbage add-ons and poor replacements for existing software they would dominate the market
- bberrry 9y agoYou blasting the Pixel 2 for having a worse camera seems to indicate that you have no idea what you're talking about (likely on the other points as well). The Pixel 2 has the highest rated camera of all smartphones (https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-2-reviewed-sets-new-record-smartphone-camera-quality/ https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-2-reviewed-sets-new-rec...)
- philliphaydon 9y agoI don’t have an iPhone 8 but was looking at the photos thinking oh the pixel 2 looks so much better, only to realise I was looking at iPhone 8 photos.... photo quality is very subjective these days the quality different is just not that different for either pixel or iPhone to stand ahead without it being subjective to the person comparing.
- sydd 9y agoDo not trust DXOMark, they are a pay-to-win service. I made a mistake of buying an Xperia Z5 because of DXOMark ratings and it has much worse camera than my Lumia 1020 with much lower score. https://www.androidauthority.com/dxomark-ranking-troublesome-805633/amp/ https://www.androidauthority.com/dxomark-ranking-troublesome...
- _fzslm 9y ago"slower phone" Absolutely not. I just stopped using a Galaxy S8 and moved to the iPhone X purely because of day-to-day responsiveness, which the recently released Oreo update has made worse. My original Pixel, however, was far smoother during the same tasks.
- asafira 9y agoI'm honestly surprised whenever I hear people complain about bezels. Does this really annoy people that much?
- _nedR 9y agoSeriously.. This obsession with thinner, bezel-less flimsy phones that look good only until the first time you drop it at a height greater than 2cms; Its cancer, causing manufacturers to make phones that are objectively worse from the viewpoint of ergonomics (these phones are very slippery and easy to drop), reliability and battery life. I would pick a sturdy rugged phone over these cinderella phones any day of the week.
- pcr0 9y agoI've never had a phone that I've felt confident using without a case, bezel-less or otherwise. I personally like bezel-less phones because I get more screen space for a phone that's just as durable (in a case).
- distances 9y agoWhereas I've never used a phone case, feeling that it would negate the point of slim phones. I'm pretty confident with not dropping them though, as that had not yet happened since the dawn of smartphones. Nexus 4 with its glass back would slide off slippery surfaces by itself though, but gladly never broke.
- qplex 9y agoYou nailed it. Clumsy cases absolutely destroy the elegance of these beautiful devices. I'm not as confident about dropping them though. However the Samsung Galaxy A3 I use has proved to be very durable. Among casual drops, it has sustained multiple drops to stone floors from considerable heights and being violently thrown across the room (not by me). The aluminium casing has some small dents and the Corning Gorilla Glass 4 screen has a few small scratches. Otherwise it's still in excellent condition.
- m1sta_ 9y agoTizen looks pretty great.
- apozem 9y agoTizen has serious security issues, though. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/12/samsungs_tizen_no_longer_worst_ever/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/12/samsungs_tizen_no_l...