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I always preferred ATI; GeForce was always more expensive for the equivalent (at least when I was keeping up on PC gaming) model and it had a wholly painful use

I always preferred ATI; GeForce was always more expensive for the equivalent (at least when I was keeping up on PC gaming) model and it had a wholly painful user interface, and it still does. ATI's user interface was always simplistic, and most of all 95% of what you needed to do could simply be done through the windows interface to begin with. I think ATI started going down hill when AMD took over. It's strange that a fairly on-par brand name managed to go to a solidly second place when the second place CPU manufacturer purchased them.

nailer 16y ago
I'm the opposite. There are entire UI concepts that only exist inside ATI's config GUIs. I had to research to find out how to disable HDMI overscan in Catalyst Control Center - it's there but there are buttons that aren't drawn as buttons.
kilian 16y ago
Are you serious? Catalyst must be one of the worst, bloated and downright obtuse configuration software ever made.
- sneakattack 16y ago
  So what about the configuration tool? I've never once needed to use it. What matters is the actual performance of the hardware during actual use. Not liking Catalyst is a stupid reason to not buy damn good performing parts for a very good price.
  - electromagnetic 16y ago
    I never even used catalyst; like I said it's integration into windows meant I never needed it. The majority of the important things were integrated into display settings in XP and anything immediate was accessible through the right-click menu. My problem with Geforce has always been that its performance is asymmetric, always has been and seems like it always will be. It's, simply put, always average. With Radeon's if you card wasn't performing great, you simply dropped the resolution and it dramatically increased, however with Geforce it only mildly increased. You have to drop from 1920x1200 to 1440x900, while with Radeon you only had to drop to 1680x1050 to get good performance again. One thing Radeon always performed poorly with is anti-aliasing, however IMO this has always made graphics look like shit. I don't want blur, I want crispness. Yes anti-aliasing was good when watching 480i TV on a big screen. I don't want to be bullshitted with anti-aliasing when I can't actually see pixels to even notice any blocking on rounded shapes.

nailer 16y ago

I'm the opposite. There are entire UI concepts that only exist inside ATI's config GUIs. I had to research to find out how to disable HDMI overscan in Catalyst Control Center - it's there but there are buttons that aren't drawn as buttons.

kilian 16y ago

Are you serious? Catalyst must be one of the worst, bloated and downright obtuse configuration software ever made.

sneakattack 16y ago
So what about the configuration tool? I've never once needed to use it. What matters is the actual performance of the hardware during actual use. Not liking Catalyst is a stupid reason to not buy damn good performing parts for a very good price.
- electromagnetic 16y ago
  I never even used catalyst; like I said it's integration into windows meant I never needed it. The majority of the important things were integrated into display settings in XP and anything immediate was accessible through the right-click menu. My problem with Geforce has always been that its performance is asymmetric, always has been and seems like it always will be. It's, simply put, always average. With Radeon's if you card wasn't performing great, you simply dropped the resolution and it dramatically increased, however with Geforce it only mildly increased. You have to drop from 1920x1200 to 1440x900, while with Radeon you only had to drop to 1680x1050 to get good performance again. One thing Radeon always performed poorly with is anti-aliasing, however IMO this has always made graphics look like shit. I don't want blur, I want crispness. Yes anti-aliasing was good when watching 480i TV on a big screen. I don't want to be bullshitted with anti-aliasing when I can't actually see pixels to even notice any blocking on rounded shapes.