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Ok but you're still ignoring the basic fact that activists and even criminals in liberal democracies have legal and human rights. In China, you have no guarant

Ok but you're still ignoring the basic fact that activists and even criminals in liberal democracies have legal and human rights. In China, you have no guarantees and no recourse. Torture, forced confession and retaliation against your family are all on the table. That's why no one worries about US activists the same way they do about Chinese ones.

tonylinn80 9y ago
Why do Assange and Snowden needs to hide then? Of course US don't need to do anything sketchy, they make them illegal and lawfully send them to jail
tonylinn80 9y ago
"no one worries about US activists the same way they do about Chinese ones"? You have only heard one sided stories from western media so far.
dis-sys 9y ago
> Ok but you're still ignoring the basic fact that activists and even criminals in liberal democracies have legal and human rights. Such as moving those criminals and activists to Guantánamo Bay? Oh, Obama trolled to shut it down almost a decade ago after acknowledging its wide spread human right violations, why it is still in operation in the same shape and form? You are free to troll whatever you like, that is not going to change the fact that Guantánamo Bay is still being used for violating basic human rights. liberal democracies? think about Guantánamo Bay. Please stop spread your highly misleading non-sense. Let's don't even go down the paths of those weekly mass shootings in the US, when the constitution is basically denying their rights to live and the far right elements are calling for teachers to be armed on campus, what you can expect?
- otaviokz 9y ago
  Also, US inmate population is far larger than China's one, even though the former population is much smaller. For this, American citizens can either believe their government is abusing human rights, or that Americans in general are more inclined to commit crimes. Which one is it?
supergirl 9y ago
ye, Assange is enjoying his human rights as we speak

tonylinn80 9y ago

Why do Assange and Snowden needs to hide then? Of course US don't need to do anything sketchy, they make them illegal and lawfully send them to jail

tonylinn80 9y ago

"no one worries about US activists the same way they do about Chinese ones"? You have only heard one sided stories from western media so far.

dis-sys 9y ago

> Ok but you're still ignoring the basic fact that activists and even criminals in liberal democracies have legal and human rights. Such as moving those criminals and activists to Guantánamo Bay? Oh, Obama trolled to shut it down almost a decade ago after acknowledging its wide spread human right violations, why it is still in operation in the same shape and form? You are free to troll whatever you like, that is not going to change the fact that Guantánamo Bay is still being used for violating basic human rights. liberal democracies? think about Guantánamo Bay. Please stop spread your highly misleading non-sense. Let's don't even go down the paths of those weekly mass shootings in the US, when the constitution is basically denying their rights to live and the far right elements are calling for teachers to be armed on campus, what you can expect?

otaviokz 9y ago
Also, US inmate population is far larger than China's one, even though the former population is much smaller. For this, American citizens can either believe their government is abusing human rights, or that Americans in general are more inclined to commit crimes. Which one is it?

supergirl 9y ago

ye, Assange is enjoying his human rights as we speak