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This. Every healthcare system in the world needs to choose. We simply cannot have healthcare for everything, including rare, expensive and/or hopeless diseases
by candiodari 9y ago
This. Every healthcare system in the world needs to choose.
We simply cannot have healthcare for everything, including rare, expensive and/or hopeless diseases (or all 3 at the same time). As long as that's what we demand, healthcare will go wrong.
And let's please just stop pretending that this is somehow an America-only problem, caused by whatever (democrats: by not being public conservatives: by public largesse. And yes, despite how it sounds I do think both arguments have merit). True, America has it bad, but healthcare is failing, financially or otherwise everywhere in the developed world [1]. And healthcare in the non-developed world ... well, this was in the newspaper 2 days ago [2].
Healthcare is failing in the developed world for economic reasons. Those are not about to change, so it will get worse unless we figure this thing out with major changes (which ARE going to include limiting treatment).
[1] https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-health-care-systems-on-life-support-special-report-drug-pricing-medicines-public-services/ https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-health-care-systems-o... or more specific https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/16/nhs-cancels-thousands-of-operations-on-the-day-patients-association-study https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/16/nhs-cancels-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-01-03/frances-health-care-system-is-going-broke https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-01-03/frances-h... and let's just not mention Spain or Greece's health care system.
[2] http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.francais/Soci%25C3%25A9t%25C3%25A9/1.3151965 http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.francais/Soci%25C3%25A9t%2...
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- gaadd33 9y agoWhy does [2] have anything to do with this conversation? Maybe google translate missed how it was related to the doctor missing something or the healthcare system not paying for treatment? Can you explain more?
- candiodari 9y agoWell, there was a hospital in India, that when a patient came in feeling unwell in his abdomen and then ... a) somehow this patient developed a ruptured liver and severe trauma to the skull (given that he survived the flight and was conscious we can easily conclude that neither injury was present before the hospital got involved) b) missed that someone at the hospital has removed the heart and kidneys from the patient c) signed off on a "natural causes" death certificate, no mention of what happened to the organs (note that organs for transplant need to be taken out before death occurs, so it's not like they removed them with the family's permission after clinical death) d) refuses to investigate how this happened e) got the government to concur, and actually the government is helping them with d) That's something that got reported last week, and this was a hospital in India, so third world healthcare.