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I am so sick of flash haters. Flash, like anything else can be used to create a horrible site. But it can create some kick-ass sites as well. I disagree with

I am so sick of flash haters. Flash, like anything else can be used to create a horrible site. But it can create some kick-ass sites as well. I disagree with half of the column. I use swfadress and index not only my pages in google but my assets. also each can have a seperate url for bookmarking. You can copy and past any text on a flash site, if the designer wants you to. its as simple as pressing a button when designing the site. If you want to hate flash for a few badly designed sites, answer these questions: How many times have you had to hack css or html to work cross browser? Bad design ---> sparkles following your mouse!!! i can pick on anything that i disagree with, but flash is popular because it works, is eye catching and small. Flash's main problem is being easy enough for a novice to pick up and create a garbage site.

astine 19y ago
>>Flash's main problem is being easy enough for a novice to pick up and create a garbage site. So is plain HTML, but if someone creates a crappy site in HTML, at least I don't need a proprietary codec to view it. It works in any browser, will deliver everything an informative site needs to, and won't take 5 minutes for it to load. Flash violates the K.I.S.S. design principle by being unnecessary in 90% of use-cases.
- poppysan 19y ago
  who's to say whats unnecessary? There are many valid reasons to use flash. Flash has proven itself the best tool in creating animation of many sorts for lightweight delivery over the web. You dont HAVE to use flash for anything. But there are MANY cases where it is the best option.
  - poppysan 19y ago
    although i have to say, I would prefer a standardized codec similar to flash. Aside from big corporation, I think flash is an awesome product, although inappropriate in some places. I don't think its bad across the board though. I can use an swf vector image thats 350b as opposed to a png of the same size thats 15K. Even with the Flash VM loading it is quite efficient if one is a good designer.
aflag 19y ago
You are sick of flash haters, flash haters are sick of you. And people who simple don't use or like flash -- like me -- choose to live on the side of the web where we can read the information we want and move on. We can even use the web without a full blown gui, and it works just fine. There's clearly demand for people who use the web for playing games, watching movies, etc. Anyhow, you have to understand that there's people who's on the web for the information. That kind of people will be annoyed by poping flash screens messing up their reading experience.
- Breath 19y ago
  Try delivering this "information" in text: http://www.lecoqsportif.com/#/us/all/ http://www.lecoqsportif.com/#/us/all/
- poppysan 19y ago
  who wants to use the web without a GUI? how many ppl want an experience like that? Maybe diehard code nerds like a few of us, but we are a extremely small minority in the sea of web users.

astine 19y ago

>>Flash's main problem is being easy enough for a novice to pick up and create a garbage site. So is plain HTML, but if someone creates a crappy site in HTML, at least I don't need a proprietary codec to view it. It works in any browser, will deliver everything an informative site needs to, and won't take 5 minutes for it to load. Flash violates the K.I.S.S. design principle by being unnecessary in 90% of use-cases.

poppysan 19y ago
who's to say whats unnecessary? There are many valid reasons to use flash. Flash has proven itself the best tool in creating animation of many sorts for lightweight delivery over the web. You dont HAVE to use flash for anything. But there are MANY cases where it is the best option.
- poppysan 19y ago
  although i have to say, I would prefer a standardized codec similar to flash. Aside from big corporation, I think flash is an awesome product, although inappropriate in some places. I don't think its bad across the board though. I can use an swf vector image thats 350b as opposed to a png of the same size thats 15K. Even with the Flash VM loading it is quite efficient if one is a good designer.

aflag 19y ago

You are sick of flash haters, flash haters are sick of you. And people who simple don't use or like flash -- like me -- choose to live on the side of the web where we can read the information we want and move on. We can even use the web without a full blown gui, and it works just fine. There's clearly demand for people who use the web for playing games, watching movies, etc. Anyhow, you have to understand that there's people who's on the web for the information. That kind of people will be annoyed by poping flash screens messing up their reading experience.

Breath 19y ago
Try delivering this "information" in text: http://www.lecoqsportif.com/#/us/all/ http://www.lecoqsportif.com/#/us/all/
poppysan 19y ago
who wants to use the web without a GUI? how many ppl want an experience like that? Maybe diehard code nerds like a few of us, but we are a extremely small minority in the sea of web users.