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Hah, no. The USA typically allows about 0.3% per year. Canada is around 0.8%. Per capita, Canada allows many more immigrants than the USA. (Since the USA's

Hah, no. The USA typically allows about 0.3% per year. Canada is around 0.8%. Per capita, Canada allows many more immigrants than the USA. (Since the USA's population is so much larger, USA allows more in absolute numbers.) About 21-22% of Canadian residents are immigrants. About 14% of American residents are.

refurb 9y ago
Where did your numbers come from? Did you pick peak years? Canada is higher but slightly. It still stands that the waitlist is way longer for the US than Canada.
DrScump 9y ago
The USA typically allows about 0.3% per year. That statistic omits those who enter/overstay illegally.
- refurb 9y ago
  Good point. There are ~20 millions people in the US illegally, so that adds another 6-7% to those numbers.
  - TheCoelacanth 9y ago
    20 million is an estimate of the total number currently present, not the number that immigrate illegally each year. There are about 400k new illegal immigrants per year[1] joining a population of about 320 million so that is about 0.1% joining the population each year. [1] https://cis.org/Report/25-Million-Join-Illegal-Population-under-Obama https://cis.org/Report/25-Million-Join-Illegal-Population-un...
    - masonic 9y ago
      The Pew numbers conflate completely different sources to deliberately underestimate the net count. For entrants, they count only working head-of-household adults. For exits, they count every single person leaving, even children. They then just subtract the latter from the former. This process understates the net entrants by a factor of at least three. Keep that in mind when quoting Pew, which is an interest group. On their "5 Facts" page, they even say, "the number of unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. was lower in 2015 than it was at the end of the Great Recession in 2009", which contradicts even their own data, let alone the CIS reference you cite.

refurb 9y ago

Where did your numbers come from? Did you pick peak years? Canada is higher but slightly. It still stands that the waitlist is way longer for the US than Canada.

DrScump 9y ago

The USA typically allows about 0.3% per year. That statistic omits those who enter/overstay illegally.

refurb 9y ago
Good point. There are ~20 millions people in the US illegally, so that adds another 6-7% to those numbers.
- TheCoelacanth 9y ago
  20 million is an estimate of the total number currently present, not the number that immigrate illegally each year. There are about 400k new illegal immigrants per year[1] joining a population of about 320 million so that is about 0.1% joining the population each year. [1] https://cis.org/Report/25-Million-Join-Illegal-Population-under-Obama https://cis.org/Report/25-Million-Join-Illegal-Population-un...
  - masonic 9y ago
    The Pew numbers conflate completely different sources to deliberately underestimate the net count. For entrants, they count only working head-of-household adults. For exits, they count every single person leaving, even children. They then just subtract the latter from the former. This process understates the net entrants by a factor of at least three. Keep that in mind when quoting Pew, which is an interest group. On their "5 Facts" page, they even say, "the number of unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. was lower in 2015 than it was at the end of the Great Recession in 2009", which contradicts even their own data, let alone the CIS reference you cite.