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> Your system is broken and needs to be fixed. I couldn't agree more. The solution here should be to lift the per country cap on each visa category, which is a

> Your system is broken and needs to be fixed. I couldn't agree more. The solution here should be to lift the per country cap on each visa category, which is a remnant of the pre-1965 overtly racist national origin system, and increase the overall number of employment based permanent visas. EB-2 and EB-3 (not including other workers), which are the main categories for high skilled workers, are only allocated around 70,000 visas per year. Compare that to the lottery system at 50,000 or siblings of US citizens at 65,000 per year. While I am totally in favor of permanent resident visa programs being fixed, and am in general in favor of increased immigration including of high tech workers, the H1B is being abused. Not just by the Indian BPO companies like Infosys and Tata but also by multinational consulting companies like IBM and Accenture. If and when the EB2 and EB3 backlogs were cleared, I'd support: 1) eliminating the exemption rules for determining H1B dependent employers, 2) barring H1B dependent employers from filing any further H1B petitions until they were no longer dependent, and 3) apply the attestation requirements to any employer regardless of size that files at least 1000 petitions in a visa year.

walshemj 9y ago
Isn't this just unfair to say bright young people from Africa who don't have an industry turning out graduates
- bradleyjg 9y ago
  How are they any worse off under what I propose than the status quo?
dahdum 9y ago
"lift the per country cap on each visa category, which is a remnant of the pre-1965 overtly racist national origin system" I understand that pre-1965 it was used in a racist way, but isn't a per country cap a good way maintain a diverse group of immigrants today? I'd keep that, and add a gender cap, forcing a relatively equal distribution. I'd also greatly increase skilled immigration overall.
- refurb 9y ago
  Exactly, if we got rid of the per country caps, the only thing it would do (beyond help the OP, surprise!) would ensure immigrants would be 80% Chinese and Indian. I for one prefer the diversity of immigrants we get with the cap.
  - letitgo12345 9y ago
    How are arguments like this any different than arguments for Jewish quotas back in the day? What happened to judging people for the content of their character rather than the color of their skin? Making Indians wait for up to 70 years (a de facto Indian exclusion act) is extremely racist.
    - refurb 9y ago
      Are you against diversity? Because that's what the quota is there for. Plenty of Indians can come to the US, we just want to leave room for others as well.
      - taway994 9y ago
        (1) If India hypothetically broke into 50 nations (at independence there were 556 states), this problem would not arise. Suddenly, India's diversity index would "shoot up". (2) India itself is very diverse: ~30% speak the same language (Hindi) with different dialects. Rest speak over 16+ regional languages with distinct scripts and a 1000+ dialects. Someone speaking Tamil won't understand a Punjabi speaker and vice versa. (3) If someone was born just 5 kms from say Gorakhpur in India , across the border in Nepal, they suddenly meet the diversity bar. (4) Not sure why two immigrants from Austria and Germany are 'diverse' but two immigrants from India's Nagaland and Gujarat, who have different religions, cultures, languages (even facial features, if those count) are clubbed together. (5) Logically extending your argument, you'd also agree with a quota system in all jobs classifications. For example, we should have a 12% quota for African Americans in Google's engineering team. This is an asinine argument. Merit, fit and an ability to contribute to the society should determine America's immigration policy not some racist concept determined by the accident of birth.

walshemj 9y ago

Isn't this just unfair to say bright young people from Africa who don't have an industry turning out graduates

bradleyjg 9y ago
How are they any worse off under what I propose than the status quo?

dahdum 9y ago

"lift the per country cap on each visa category, which is a remnant of the pre-1965 overtly racist national origin system" I understand that pre-1965 it was used in a racist way, but isn't a per country cap a good way maintain a diverse group of immigrants today? I'd keep that, and add a gender cap, forcing a relatively equal distribution. I'd also greatly increase skilled immigration overall.

refurb 9y ago
Exactly, if we got rid of the per country caps, the only thing it would do (beyond help the OP, surprise!) would ensure immigrants would be 80% Chinese and Indian. I for one prefer the diversity of immigrants we get with the cap.
- letitgo12345 9y ago
  How are arguments like this any different than arguments for Jewish quotas back in the day? What happened to judging people for the content of their character rather than the color of their skin? Making Indians wait for up to 70 years (a de facto Indian exclusion act) is extremely racist.
  - refurb 9y ago
    Are you against diversity? Because that's what the quota is there for. Plenty of Indians can come to the US, we just want to leave room for others as well.
    - taway994 9y ago
      (1) If India hypothetically broke into 50 nations (at independence there were 556 states), this problem would not arise. Suddenly, India's diversity index would "shoot up". (2) India itself is very diverse: ~30% speak the same language (Hindi) with different dialects. Rest speak over 16+ regional languages with distinct scripts and a 1000+ dialects. Someone speaking Tamil won't understand a Punjabi speaker and vice versa. (3) If someone was born just 5 kms from say Gorakhpur in India , across the border in Nepal, they suddenly meet the diversity bar. (4) Not sure why two immigrants from Austria and Germany are 'diverse' but two immigrants from India's Nagaland and Gujarat, who have different religions, cultures, languages (even facial features, if those count) are clubbed together. (5) Logically extending your argument, you'd also agree with a quota system in all jobs classifications. For example, we should have a 12% quota for African Americans in Google's engineering team. This is an asinine argument. Merit, fit and an ability to contribute to the society should determine America's immigration policy not some racist concept determined by the accident of birth.