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I like walking, and honestly, it makes me feel very happy to know that there are bikers who don't ride noisy bikes. There's nothing more depressing than being i

I like walking, and honestly, it makes me feel very happy to know that there are bikers who don't ride noisy bikes. There's nothing more depressing than being in what feels like a perfect wilderness, except the sound of motorbikes roaring through the valleys.

mulmen 9y ago
Not sure if you are talking about dirt bikes or just road bikes in a more rural setting. I can however imagine there are things more depressing than engine noise so your claim is hyperbolic. I do not ride a quiet motorcycle on the street. My pipes are louder than stock (no baffles) but I still have mufflers. This bike is louder than stock because I like how it sounds. I admit that makes me a bit of a jerk. I don't hide behind dubious claims of safety.
- pasabagi 9y ago
  Road bikes, actually. It just takes one road, and unfortunately the kind of places that are good to walk in are also fun to bike in. I think as it goes, the 'jerk'-ness of riding a loud motorbike is a small subset of the greater jerkness of petrol-based vehicles in general. As a value proposition, widespread car ownership is about the most horrible idea for public transportation imaginable, in most places. I'm really looking forward to the end of it, to be honest. Public transport has lots of nice side-effects - like increasing general health (through reducing polution, for instance), or making the elderly more able to get around. Cars just have negatives - and most of the time, they're just a really uncomfortable way to sit still in traffic.
  - reificator 9y ago
    That's why I have a motorcycle. All the personal freedom of a car, minus a touch for inclement weather, but with 70+ MPG. And more entitle to boot. It's not good for the environment/traffic, but I'd like to think I'm helping a little on both pollution and noise.
    - pasabagi 9y ago
      That actually makes some sense - but I'd still rather everybody used public transport. If you've ever seen a video of what streets used to look like before cars, you can really see what driving has done to public spaces, and perhaps, to our society. It's made us a good bit more atomized, zipping from private space to private space, stuck in these really expensive monads.
      - reificator 9y ago
        I don't know why my phone corrected enjoyable to entitle above, but it's amusing. I don't disagree on public transit, but IMO on an individual level it's not practical until group buyin.

mulmen 9y ago

Not sure if you are talking about dirt bikes or just road bikes in a more rural setting. I can however imagine there are things more depressing than engine noise so your claim is hyperbolic. I do not ride a quiet motorcycle on the street. My pipes are louder than stock (no baffles) but I still have mufflers. This bike is louder than stock because I like how it sounds. I admit that makes me a bit of a jerk. I don't hide behind dubious claims of safety.

pasabagi 9y ago
Road bikes, actually. It just takes one road, and unfortunately the kind of places that are good to walk in are also fun to bike in. I think as it goes, the 'jerk'-ness of riding a loud motorbike is a small subset of the greater jerkness of petrol-based vehicles in general. As a value proposition, widespread car ownership is about the most horrible idea for public transportation imaginable, in most places. I'm really looking forward to the end of it, to be honest. Public transport has lots of nice side-effects - like increasing general health (through reducing polution, for instance), or making the elderly more able to get around. Cars just have negatives - and most of the time, they're just a really uncomfortable way to sit still in traffic.
- reificator 9y ago
  That's why I have a motorcycle. All the personal freedom of a car, minus a touch for inclement weather, but with 70+ MPG. And more entitle to boot. It's not good for the environment/traffic, but I'd like to think I'm helping a little on both pollution and noise.
  - pasabagi 9y ago
    That actually makes some sense - but I'd still rather everybody used public transport. If you've ever seen a video of what streets used to look like before cars, you can really see what driving has done to public spaces, and perhaps, to our society. It's made us a good bit more atomized, zipping from private space to private space, stuck in these really expensive monads.
    - reificator 9y ago
      I don't know why my phone corrected enjoyable to entitle above, but it's amusing. I don't disagree on public transit, but IMO on an individual level it's not practical until group buyin.