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That type of comment is also the underlying reason why Linux improves/fixes things at such an astronomical rate compared to either of the choices you listed. I

by serf 9y ago

That type of comment is also the underlying reason why Linux improves/fixes things at such an astronomical rate compared to either of the choices you listed. It's not just saying "Hey you, go fix that." , it's saying "Hey everyone viewing this comment on a public page : this exists and needs to be fixed. Someone grab a wrench."

pjmlp 9y ago
Yet the two most successfully desktop experiences among common users, based on Linux, don't expose any details of its eco-system. Quite telling.
- giovannicarruba 9y ago
  Which two are those?
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    ChromeOS and Android.
    - giovannicarruba 9y ago
      I have yet to see an Android desktop.
      - pjmlp 9y ago
        Easy, get a Chromebook. https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/chrome-os-systems-supporting-android-apps?visit_id=1-636551452624253216-612273770&rd=1 https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/chro... Or if you prefer to jump on Apple's bandwagon about how regular computers are outdated, a detachable keyboard and mouse for an Android 10"/12" tablet.
nitrogen 9y ago
The Linux desktop ecosystem's development model is highly prone to regression, though. I've been using it since Xmms was the most advanced media player. I've seen lots of things fixed, only for them to break again a yeaf or two later. So sure, things are fixed at an astronomical rate, but that's because things are also decaying at an astronomical rate so there's a constant supply of low hanging fruit
coldtea 9y ago
>That type of comment is also the underlying reason why Linux improves/fixes things at such an astronomical rate compared to either of the choices you listed. Huh? Linux is behind both Windows and OS X in most non-server related areas. They can't even agree on a good compositor...
- drdaeman 9y ago
  Except that there is no "they". Unlike with Windows or macOS there is no Microsoft or Apple to make decisions for the whole "ecosystem". There are distro vendors, but they're more like app stores shipping pre-configured pieces (including pieces that we consider to be core OS functionalities). And there are a lot of them, so lack of consensus is not surprising. And then many vendors offer options to install this-and-that, so it's up to users to decide what exactly they build on their machines... Given that there is no such thing as just "Linux desktop" (I mean, my setup can be completely different from another persons' one), it's hard to say whenever it's ahead or behind, unless every component option is known to be such.

by serf 9y ago

pjmlp 9y ago

Yet the two most successfully desktop experiences among common users, based on Linux, don't expose any details of its eco-system. Quite telling.

giovannicarruba 9y ago
Which two are those?
- pjmlp 9y ago
  ChromeOS and Android.
  - giovannicarruba 9y ago
    I have yet to see an Android desktop.
    - pjmlp 9y ago
      Easy, get a Chromebook. https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/chrome-os-systems-supporting-android-apps?visit_id=1-636551452624253216-612273770&rd=1 https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/chro... Or if you prefer to jump on Apple's bandwagon about how regular computers are outdated, a detachable keyboard and mouse for an Android 10"/12" tablet.

nitrogen 9y ago

The Linux desktop ecosystem's development model is highly prone to regression, though. I've been using it since Xmms was the most advanced media player. I've seen lots of things fixed, only for them to break again a yeaf or two later. So sure, things are fixed at an astronomical rate, but that's because things are also decaying at an astronomical rate so there's a constant supply of low hanging fruit

coldtea 9y ago

>That type of comment is also the underlying reason why Linux improves/fixes things at such an astronomical rate compared to either of the choices you listed. Huh? Linux is behind both Windows and OS X in most non-server related areas. They can't even agree on a good compositor...

drdaeman 9y ago
Except that there is no "they". Unlike with Windows or macOS there is no Microsoft or Apple to make decisions for the whole "ecosystem". There are distro vendors, but they're more like app stores shipping pre-configured pieces (including pieces that we consider to be core OS functionalities). And there are a lot of them, so lack of consensus is not surprising. And then many vendors offer options to install this-and-that, so it's up to users to decide what exactly they build on their machines... Given that there is no such thing as just "Linux desktop" (I mean, my setup can be completely different from another persons' one), it's hard to say whenever it's ahead or behind, unless every component option is known to be such.