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Americans always tend to use homogeneity as an argument when they compare themselves with other countries, like it’s somehow a good argument not to be as good a

Americans always tend to use homogeneity as an argument when they compare themselves with other countries, like it’s somehow a good argument not to be as good as other countries in some aspects. Like you, I doubt that this is actually relevant. Canada is nothing but diverse, in a very similar way to the US and somehow it’s never used an excuse.

lvh 9y ago
Are you suggesting that it's not mostly accepted, sociologically, that ethnic diversity is correlated negatively with social cohesion? That was not my understanding. Do you have a citation that suggests otherwise? [0]: https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332 https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332
muninn_ 9y ago
Intuitively do you believe it's easier to govern a group of people with very different opinions and very different backgrounds and socioeconomic status, or easier?
alphamonster 9y ago
Canada is much less (racially) diverse than the U.S.: 89% white and the largest minority group as asian with 6.7% versus the U.S. 66% white and 14.7% hispanic as the largest minority group. source: data compiled from census reports https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.mx/2011/03/us-vs-canada-comparing-apples-to-apples.html#.WpGK_uaVvRY https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.mx/2011/03/us-vs-cana...
rayiner 9y ago
> Canada is nothing but diverse, in a very similar way to the US and somehow it’s never used an excuse. Less than 20% of Canada is a "visible minority." In the U.S., it's almost 40%. Toronto recently became a majority minority city. Washington, D.C. became a majority minority city sometime in the 1950s. In Chicago, it was sometime in the 1980s. Canada has no majority-minority provinces. Ontario is still 67% European (roughly on par with Connecticut). Our two largest states, California and Texas, are both majority-minority states. Recency matters too. Much of Canada's diversity is very recent. American politics has in contrast been shaped by these conflicts for decades (really, from inception--we fought a whole civil war over race!).
- muninn_ 9y ago
  Where immigrants come from matters too - family-based system vs points-based system.

lvh 9y ago

Are you suggesting that it's not mostly accepted, sociologically, that ethnic diversity is correlated negatively with social cohesion? That was not my understanding. Do you have a citation that suggests otherwise? [0]: https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332 https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332

muninn_ 9y ago

Intuitively do you believe it's easier to govern a group of people with very different opinions and very different backgrounds and socioeconomic status, or easier?

alphamonster 9y ago

Canada is much less (racially) diverse than the U.S.: 89% white and the largest minority group as asian with 6.7% versus the U.S. 66% white and 14.7% hispanic as the largest minority group. source: data compiled from census reports https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.mx/2011/03/us-vs-canada-comparing-apples-to-apples.html#.WpGK_uaVvRY https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.mx/2011/03/us-vs-cana...

rayiner 9y ago

> Canada is nothing but diverse, in a very similar way to the US and somehow it’s never used an excuse. Less than 20% of Canada is a "visible minority." In the U.S., it's almost 40%. Toronto recently became a majority minority city. Washington, D.C. became a majority minority city sometime in the 1950s. In Chicago, it was sometime in the 1980s. Canada has no majority-minority provinces. Ontario is still 67% European (roughly on par with Connecticut). Our two largest states, California and Texas, are both majority-minority states. Recency matters too. Much of Canada's diversity is very recent. American politics has in contrast been shaped by these conflicts for decades (really, from inception--we fought a whole civil war over race!).

muninn_ 9y ago
Where immigrants come from matters too - family-based system vs points-based system.