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What’s the charging network like?
by drb91 9y ago
What’s the charging network like?
- tobyhinloopen 9y agoThe same as the Tesla's charging network, since they are compatible...
- drb91 9y agoAre you sure leafs can use superchargers? That doesn’t seem correct at all. I’m not sure what other charging network i would refer to.
- EwanToo 9y agoIn the UK I've never seen a supercharger (though they exist) but lots of car parks at offices, shopping malls, etc, have generic charging points. BP are adding them on petrol forecourts too. See this map for example https://www.zap-map.com/charge-points/ https://www.zap-map.com/charge-points/
- _ph_ 9y agoSuperchargers are usually built outside of cities along the long-distance routes. So they might not be as obvious as other chargers. Here is a map of all active superchargers: https://supercharge.info/ https://supercharge.info/
- tobyhinloopen 9y agoYou can use all non-tesla fast-charging stations, charging to 80% in 20 minutes. Do note that tesla supercharger stations also have "normal" fast-charging stations. Tesla is the only company remaining to deploy vendor-specific chargers.
- bdcravens 9y agoInteresting that while we tend to beat on the standards drum in HN, Tesla might get a pass ...
- marvin 9y agoI don't think it's entirely fair to expect Tesla to _wait_ for the rest of the car industry to agree on a standard that suits everyone. When the Model S was developed, no other car company except Nissan had any notable interest in electric cars, and no other company had plans to make cars even _close_ to Tesla's in terms of battery capacity. Assuming that a charger network was necessary for success, which I would argue it was, waiting for the others to catch up could have killed the company. Note that there have still been no large-scale deployments of charging standards with more than 50-60kW of power, which is half what Tesla is currently deploying to most of its charging stations in North America.
- ClassyJacket 9y agoThey don't even have to wait for an open standard, they could make their proprietary system one.
- AckSyn 9y agoAre Tesla super chargers really proprietary, or were they built for use with their cars when no one else had any kind of infrastructure in place? Tesla has given away a lot of tech for electric cars and I've read that's why China has had a boon of them recently. Can't say I wouldn't see them giving the specifications for the charging units to US manufacturers as well...
- _ph_ 9y agoTesla offered their implementation to all car manufacturers, including access to the Supercharger network, but none took the offer.
- rocky1138 9y agohttps://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you
- ec109685 9y agoTesla super charging stations don’t have normal fast charging stations co-located.
- _ph_ 9y agoTesla is the only car company which creates large scale charging networks.
- codeulike 9y agoTeslas can use the other chargers, but no-one except Tesla can use the Superchargers
- Shivetya 9y agoI really dislike this focus on charging networks. Long distance trips with current generation electrics is not comparable to current petrol powered cars. If anything we should use the roll out of electrics to take back land to service cars which includes "charging stations" other than those already used for parking cars. with regards to my trip comment, the contorted thought processes people go through to justify one hour stops for full recharges plus what can be ten to fifteen minute side trips to charging stations should clue many in on how not ready it is. (and yes it is an hour if not more even for Tesla to fully charge and range dives in winter)
- Coincoin 9y ago>the contorted thought processes people go through to justify one hour stops for full recharges But everybody knows you need to stop a full hour to pee for every two hours of driving else you might die. Think about all the delicious restaurant meals and fun you haven't had because you never needed to wait for your ICE car to recharge in the middle of nowhere.
- pkaye 9y agoMost people I know stop 15 minutes every two hours and maybe stop for a meal every 4 hours. An hour every two hours is too much. It extends the travel time by 50%.
- username223 9y agoMy old rule for long drives was to drive for 3 CDs (i.e. albums), fuel up for 10 minutes, and repeat until done. On a highway, that's 200+ miles per 10-minute stop. EVs are already great for commuting and errands, but they have a long way to go before being even close to competitive for long-distance driving.
- greglindahl 9y agoAnd yet lots of Tesla owners drive long distances.
- ebbv 9y agoThere is no Nissan specific charging network. The rest of the industry besides Tesla have long since settled on standards for charging and the presence of regular charging stations is improving but slowly. A large part of why is that up til this generation of EVs (Chevy Bolt and new Nissan Leaf and others that are coming), they have really not made sense to drive far. You would have had to stop too often. They were in town or short (sub 30 miles) commute cars. And having owned the previous generation Leaf for the last 3 years I can tell you 99% of our charging is done in our garage. Once in a while we park somewhere that has charging or my wife will luck into getting a charge spot in a parking garage. But we don’t take it on drives where we need a charging station to complete the journey. We have a gas car for those longer drives right now. But that will change with this new generation that have 40KWh+ batteries.
- madengr 9y agoThere is an extensive charging network here in Kansas City area; > 2000 plugs. Though as of 1/18 many have started charging $0.20/kWh, which is double the rate at home. I’ll still use them though. Places like grocery stores are still free.
- toyg 9y agoI still wouldn’t leave my car just plugged in somewhere while I walk away for extensive amounts of time. Call me paranoid, but in urban Europe people will steal and vandalise the shit out of anything that looks slightly unprotected.
- lostapathy 9y agoHelp me understand that - leaving your car plugged in while shopping is no different than leaving your gas car not-plugged-in while shopping, in terms of leaving your property around. The cord is part of the fixed charged, and not my problem ... just like the hose on a gas pump.
- stefan_ 9y agoYou typically can't unplug it without the key while charging.