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I don't. Google provides way more for a lot less money. You can encrypt your own content on either providers. For GSuite you get literally almost every service

I don't. Google provides way more for a lot less money. You can encrypt your own content on either providers. For GSuite you get literally almost every service you can imagine, include a phone number that you can make unlimited calls to/from landlines with using your computer.

news_to_me 9y ago
It's not just about cost-effectiveness, it's about which company is making the Web a better place — and I see a lot of Google's activities actively moving in the wrong direction. For me, it's more about the companies than the product (which, like I said, is probably an unsatisfactory criteria for most people). Glad you're enjoying Google's services though :)
- braderhart 9y ago
  In a lot of ways making the world a better place is about cost-effectiveness, and honestly what is Dropbox doing? Are they the main contributor to Nextcloud? Yeah, Google isn't much better in that regard, but I can buy a descent $199 unlocked Android phone now at Costco, and have all of Google services integrated. They also provide a lot of descent open source tools. Have you tried Kubernetes? :)
  - news_to_me 9y ago
    > In a lot of ways making the world a better place is about cost-effectiveness I think we just have different worldviews. Certainly economics are important, but I try not to boil everything down to dollars and cents. And for sure, Google has done a ton of useful and interesting things that I'm grateful for. But they also contribute to undermining online privacy, and use their size to wield disproportionate power in politics, etc. etc.
    - braderhart 9y ago
      The CEO of Dropbox is listed as a founder of FWD.us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FWD.us#Keystone_XL_oil_pipeline_support https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FWD.us#Keystone_XL_oil_pipelin... I agree that Google contributes to undermining online privacy, but I still don't see Dropbox doing more in that regard. I'm sorry, but I really am not a fan of Dropbox after my experience with them, so I am inclined to be a vocal critic of their service (or lack thereof).
jpindar 9y ago
The last thing I want is to get all my services from the same provider.

news_to_me 9y ago

It's not just about cost-effectiveness, it's about which company is making the Web a better place — and I see a lot of Google's activities actively moving in the wrong direction. For me, it's more about the companies than the product (which, like I said, is probably an unsatisfactory criteria for most people). Glad you're enjoying Google's services though :)

braderhart 9y ago
In a lot of ways making the world a better place is about cost-effectiveness, and honestly what is Dropbox doing? Are they the main contributor to Nextcloud? Yeah, Google isn't much better in that regard, but I can buy a descent $199 unlocked Android phone now at Costco, and have all of Google services integrated. They also provide a lot of descent open source tools. Have you tried Kubernetes? :)
- news_to_me 9y ago
  > In a lot of ways making the world a better place is about cost-effectiveness I think we just have different worldviews. Certainly economics are important, but I try not to boil everything down to dollars and cents. And for sure, Google has done a ton of useful and interesting things that I'm grateful for. But they also contribute to undermining online privacy, and use their size to wield disproportionate power in politics, etc. etc.
  - braderhart 9y ago
    The CEO of Dropbox is listed as a founder of FWD.us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FWD.us#Keystone_XL_oil_pipeline_support https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FWD.us#Keystone_XL_oil_pipelin... I agree that Google contributes to undermining online privacy, but I still don't see Dropbox doing more in that regard. I'm sorry, but I really am not a fan of Dropbox after my experience with them, so I am inclined to be a vocal critic of their service (or lack thereof).

jpindar 9y ago

The last thing I want is to get all my services from the same provider.