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I don't know what arguments Mozilla is planning on using in this suit, but one could argue that the FCC is violating their mandate to promote competition in the

I don't know what arguments Mozilla is planning on using in this suit, but one could argue that the FCC is violating their mandate to promote competition in the broadband space.

SlowRobotAhead 9y ago
Mandates are't law though, right?
- wavefunction 9y ago
  Violating a statutory mandate would be violating a law, presumably. I am just a software engineer though so take that for what it's worth.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  A legal (statutory, for instance) mandate is such exactly because it is law.
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wyager 9y ago
How does net neutrality promote broadband provision competition?
- 49531 9y ago
  Yea, I don't know that it does really. If anything making it more of a utility entrenches existing players. That being said I think that net neutrality promotes competition on the internet as a whole, which I think is more impactful and positive, but in this line of thinking is probably a little besides the point. I don't really think ending net neutrality promotes competition between broadband providers either. I think either way you have entrenched natural oligopolies, just with NN they're not getting in the way of a free and open internet.
  - iratewizard 9y ago
    Does it do that on the wider internet? The most notable companies supporting it are companies that have already sliced up 98% of the internet market and actively engage in anti-consumer monopolization.
    - pzxc 9y ago
      Of course it does. Just because they already have the advantage doesn't mean we should forfeit the game. (That's a metaphor, this is actually much more serious than a game) Comcast already refused to make infrastructure upgrades so that customers (who were paying Comcast) could get the services they wanted (Netflix). If net neutrality protections are removed, they could just throttle them out of existence. I, as a one man web dev shop, run about 20 or so websites. Some are info sites, some are SaaS, some are just hobbies. Comcast won't throttle traffic to me because they don't care about someone as small as me -- but if Comcast and all the other ISPs start offering "fast lane service" for cheaper prices that give prime service to big places like Facebook/etc (who can afford to pay the ISPs kickbacks), and degraded or "normal" service to everyone else (me), then I am harmed just the same.

I don't know what arguments Mozilla is planning on using in this suit, but one could argue that the FCC is violating their mandate to promote competition in the broadband space.

SlowRobotAhead 9y ago

Mandates are't law though, right?

wavefunction 9y ago
Violating a statutory mandate would be violating a law, presumably. I am just a software engineer though so take that for what it's worth.
dragonwriter 9y ago
A legal (statutory, for instance) mandate is such exactly because it is law.

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wyager 9y ago

How does net neutrality promote broadband provision competition?

49531 9y ago
Yea, I don't know that it does really. If anything making it more of a utility entrenches existing players. That being said I think that net neutrality promotes competition on the internet as a whole, which I think is more impactful and positive, but in this line of thinking is probably a little besides the point. I don't really think ending net neutrality promotes competition between broadband providers either. I think either way you have entrenched natural oligopolies, just with NN they're not getting in the way of a free and open internet.
- iratewizard 9y ago
  Does it do that on the wider internet? The most notable companies supporting it are companies that have already sliced up 98% of the internet market and actively engage in anti-consumer monopolization.
  - pzxc 9y ago
    Of course it does. Just because they already have the advantage doesn't mean we should forfeit the game. (That's a metaphor, this is actually much more serious than a game) Comcast already refused to make infrastructure upgrades so that customers (who were paying Comcast) could get the services they wanted (Netflix). If net neutrality protections are removed, they could just throttle them out of existence. I, as a one man web dev shop, run about 20 or so websites. Some are info sites, some are SaaS, some are just hobbies. Comcast won't throttle traffic to me because they don't care about someone as small as me -- but if Comcast and all the other ISPs start offering "fast lane service" for cheaper prices that give prime service to big places like Facebook/etc (who can afford to pay the ISPs kickbacks), and degraded or "normal" service to everyone else (me), then I am harmed just the same.