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Great find! So, not exactly consistent with the NYT piece.

subroutine 9y ago
Oddly not. Though, this Bachman guy was the direct cause of so much crazy stuff, I can hardly blame them for glossing over a proximal event (but wouldn't be surprised if he was somehow an instigator). If someone made a movie about this guy's life, I would watch. (also, just a trivial note, this is a NYMag piece, not NYT)
ejstronge 9y ago
> Great find! So, not exactly consistent with the NYT piece. First, this is not a NYT article. What do you think is inconsistent? The article tries to highlight the idea that ‘beheading’ was said rhetorically.
- subroutine 9y ago
  Maybe not 'inconsistent' so much as neglected to include the key details necessary to understand why Vidrine was acquitted (or, 'not indicted'). I mean, it's presented as a heinous murder. But yeah, you are right, after a second read there isn't major inconsistencies.
  - JumpCrisscross 9y ago
    > neglected to include the key details The “key detail” is Bachman was close to a traumatic, seemingly-random violent interaction in his youth. Whether it was cheese snacks or a cheese sandwich, and who attacked whom first, are largely irrelevant to the main story.
    - subroutine 9y ago
      1. had i said key details to the main story, yes, i'd agree 2. see my comment below, where i point out that, indeed the players and events that unfolded here are only proximal to not directly in the scope of the story about Jamison. 3. I already admitted there wasnt major inconsistencies, whaddayawant from me. A formal retraction?
- chmod775 9y ago
  "Suddenly, a man had appeared with a knife and slashed Gutzeit’s throat." According to the older news article Gutzeit grabbed the other Student, then got stabbed.
  - tokai 9y ago
    The "suddenly" is very disingenuous, when Gutzeit was the one that started the physical confrontation, and had provoked Vidrine just earlier.
- ghostbrainalpha 9y ago
  Are you serious??? The newspaper article says the student was eating a bag of cheese snacks, which is COMPLETELY different than a cheese sandwich! It's just NYMAG's liberal fake news 'sandwich hating agenda' peeking out again. Edit: I was trying to make a joke, but as a former assistant librarian I can tell you, there really is a difference between someone eating a sandwich, and someone thumbing through books with Cheetos fingers.

Oddly not. Though, this Bachman guy was the direct cause of so much crazy stuff, I can hardly blame them for glossing over a proximal event (but wouldn't be surprised if he was somehow an instigator). If someone made a movie about this guy's life, I would watch. (also, just a trivial note, this is a NYMag piece, not NYT)

ejstronge 9y ago

> Great find! So, not exactly consistent with the NYT piece. First, this is not a NYT article. What do you think is inconsistent? The article tries to highlight the idea that ‘beheading’ was said rhetorically.

subroutine 9y ago
Maybe not 'inconsistent' so much as neglected to include the key details necessary to understand why Vidrine was acquitted (or, 'not indicted'). I mean, it's presented as a heinous murder. But yeah, you are right, after a second read there isn't major inconsistencies.
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago
  > neglected to include the key details The “key detail” is Bachman was close to a traumatic, seemingly-random violent interaction in his youth. Whether it was cheese snacks or a cheese sandwich, and who attacked whom first, are largely irrelevant to the main story.
  - subroutine 9y ago
    1. had i said key details to the main story, yes, i'd agree 2. see my comment below, where i point out that, indeed the players and events that unfolded here are only proximal to not directly in the scope of the story about Jamison. 3. I already admitted there wasnt major inconsistencies, whaddayawant from me. A formal retraction?
chmod775 9y ago
"Suddenly, a man had appeared with a knife and slashed Gutzeit’s throat." According to the older news article Gutzeit grabbed the other Student, then got stabbed.
- tokai 9y ago
  The "suddenly" is very disingenuous, when Gutzeit was the one that started the physical confrontation, and had provoked Vidrine just earlier.
ghostbrainalpha 9y ago
Are you serious??? The newspaper article says the student was eating a bag of cheese snacks, which is COMPLETELY different than a cheese sandwich! It's just NYMAG's liberal fake news 'sandwich hating agenda' peeking out again. Edit: I was trying to make a joke, but as a former assistant librarian I can tell you, there really is a difference between someone eating a sandwich, and someone thumbing through books with Cheetos fingers.