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I've known people to label others as psychopaths in order to relieve guilt over their own behavior...

mjburgess 9y ago
Yes, and especially, I don't know if a psychopath would cower in their bed. Psychopathy goes along with a diminished sensitivity to pain and a generalized dissociative state, and I'd expect after a high-stress event, this dissociation to be extremely pronounced possibly to the point of total detachment from their environment. Psychopathy is a "fight" response to stress, coupled with a extreme impairment to self-imagine/empathy. Its not a choice, its a lifelong pathology that I struggle to see diminish after a mere fight. In particular, I wonder if a psychopath would really have much concern for their body in this way. I think they would be more concerned to protect its integrity/image than afraid of damage. Maybe the were pretending to cower because that's what they thought this chump wanted to see. The way he talks about this situation though -- he comes off strongly as a person self-justifying and duty bound to do something obviously wrong.
- M_Bakhtiari 9y ago
  >Maybe the were pretending to cower because that's what they thought this chump wanted to see. To the point of intentionally defecating all over themselves? That sounds far-fetched for anyone, psychopath or not.
  - mjburgess 9y ago
    I took it as an exaggeration. This story is not presented in away which is sympathetic at all. We're taking it as a given a person deserves a serious physical assault, and then invited to enjoy the idea of their assault. It reads as a kind of revenge fantasy. Whether it is true or not, the preoccupation with the humiliation and defeat of this person; the duty-bound self-justification of what has to be done. The enjoyment of physical violence and the expectation that others will be impressed by this display of physical violence. Nothing here is very healthy. Conceivably there are serious predators of people who can be deterred by violence. I don't think this post communicates this point, rather, something more disturbing about its author. The paralipsis of " While I don't revel in this ..." is revealing.

Yes, and especially, I don't know if a psychopath would cower in their bed. Psychopathy goes along with a diminished sensitivity to pain and a generalized dissociative state, and I'd expect after a high-stress event, this dissociation to be extremely pronounced possibly to the point of total detachment from their environment. Psychopathy is a "fight" response to stress, coupled with a extreme impairment to self-imagine/empathy. Its not a choice, its a lifelong pathology that I struggle to see diminish after a mere fight. In particular, I wonder if a psychopath would really have much concern for their body in this way. I think they would be more concerned to protect its integrity/image than afraid of damage. Maybe the were pretending to cower because that's what they thought this chump wanted to see. The way he talks about this situation though -- he comes off strongly as a person self-justifying and duty bound to do something obviously wrong.

M_Bakhtiari 9y ago
>Maybe the were pretending to cower because that's what they thought this chump wanted to see. To the point of intentionally defecating all over themselves? That sounds far-fetched for anyone, psychopath or not.
- mjburgess 9y ago
  I took it as an exaggeration. This story is not presented in away which is sympathetic at all. We're taking it as a given a person deserves a serious physical assault, and then invited to enjoy the idea of their assault. It reads as a kind of revenge fantasy. Whether it is true or not, the preoccupation with the humiliation and defeat of this person; the duty-bound self-justification of what has to be done. The enjoyment of physical violence and the expectation that others will be impressed by this display of physical violence. Nothing here is very healthy. Conceivably there are serious predators of people who can be deterred by violence. I don't think this post communicates this point, rather, something more disturbing about its author. The paralipsis of " While I don't revel in this ..." is revealing.