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The ruling ethnic elite (and fully 91.51% of the population as of 2010) are Han Chinese, and you could say they enforce somewhat of an ethnostate. Foreigners ca

The ruling ethnic elite (and fully 91.51% of the population as of 2010) are Han Chinese, and you could say they enforce somewhat of an ethnostate. Foreigners cannot become citizens even if they marry a native Chinese and contribute to their economy.

_cs2017_ 9y ago
Yes. I don't disagree.
oh_sigh 9y ago
Is that rule true even if, say, a Han Chinese citizen marries as second generation USAmerican+Han person?
- barry-cotter 9y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_law_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China#Frequency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_law_of_the_People%... In practice, naturalizing as a Chinese national is extremely rare, even more so when the sheer population of the region is taken into account and compared to other comparable regions, such as the European Union, United States and India. Majority of foreign permanent residents simply remain that for the duration of their residency, without ever being asked or forced to naturalize. During the Fifth National Population Census (2000), only 941 naturalized citizens that do not belong to any of Communist Party of China's recognized 56 indigenous ethnic groups (which already includes Koreans, Vietnamese, and Russians)[13] were counted in China's mainland.[14] As of 2010, the total number of naturalized Chinese was only 1,448 in Mainland China, out of the population of over 1.33 billion. In 1990, there were over 3,000.[15] More foreigners have applied for naturalization as Chinese nationals with permanent residency of Hong Kong since the handover in 1997. Among Hong Kong residents from 1997 to 2012, 3,411 Pakistanis, 3,399 Indonesians, 2,487 Indians, 1,115 Vietnamese, and 387 Filipinos have been naturalized.[16] One case of mass naturalization occurred in 2003, when less than 200 Damans, an ethnic-Nepali people who had resided in Gyirong County of Tibet for over two centuries, were granted Chinese nationality. The serial numbers on their naturalization certificates suggested that around 4,000 people (including the Damans) had naturalized as Chinese nationals in Mainland China until 2003.[17]
Arn_Thor 9y ago
Pretty strong cases have been made that the Han Chinese ethnicity is an invention. This makes some sense given China's pre-CCP plethora of wildly different languages, and quite distinct appearance differences between provinces. That's hard to explain if one adopts the "majority ethnicity" view. Of course, from a practical perspective, once everyone believes the myth then it's a de facto reality https://www.hrichina.org/en/content/4573 https://www.hrichina.org/en/content/4573 http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/04/13/the-myth-of-one-china/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/04/13/the-myth-of-one-china/
- ghostcluster 9y ago
  "Han is a social construct" doesn't change the fact that they operate as a de facto ethnostate that keeps foreigners out and their more phenotypically distinct ethnic minorities out of power.
baybal2 9y ago
>Foreigners cannot become citizens even if they marry a native Chinese and contribute to their economy. Well, there are a "whopping" 1500 new naturalised citizens since the passage of 1998 citizenship law :)

_cs2017_ 9y ago

Yes. I don't disagree.

oh_sigh 9y ago

Is that rule true even if, say, a Han Chinese citizen marries as second generation USAmerican+Han person?

barry-cotter 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_law_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China#Frequency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_law_of_the_People%... In practice, naturalizing as a Chinese national is extremely rare, even more so when the sheer population of the region is taken into account and compared to other comparable regions, such as the European Union, United States and India. Majority of foreign permanent residents simply remain that for the duration of their residency, without ever being asked or forced to naturalize. During the Fifth National Population Census (2000), only 941 naturalized citizens that do not belong to any of Communist Party of China's recognized 56 indigenous ethnic groups (which already includes Koreans, Vietnamese, and Russians)[13] were counted in China's mainland.[14] As of 2010, the total number of naturalized Chinese was only 1,448 in Mainland China, out of the population of over 1.33 billion. In 1990, there were over 3,000.[15] More foreigners have applied for naturalization as Chinese nationals with permanent residency of Hong Kong since the handover in 1997. Among Hong Kong residents from 1997 to 2012, 3,411 Pakistanis, 3,399 Indonesians, 2,487 Indians, 1,115 Vietnamese, and 387 Filipinos have been naturalized.[16] One case of mass naturalization occurred in 2003, when less than 200 Damans, an ethnic-Nepali people who had resided in Gyirong County of Tibet for over two centuries, were granted Chinese nationality. The serial numbers on their naturalization certificates suggested that around 4,000 people (including the Damans) had naturalized as Chinese nationals in Mainland China until 2003.[17]

Arn_Thor 9y ago

Pretty strong cases have been made that the Han Chinese ethnicity is an invention. This makes some sense given China's pre-CCP plethora of wildly different languages, and quite distinct appearance differences between provinces. That's hard to explain if one adopts the "majority ethnicity" view. Of course, from a practical perspective, once everyone believes the myth then it's a de facto reality https://www.hrichina.org/en/content/4573 https://www.hrichina.org/en/content/4573 http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/04/13/the-myth-of-one-china/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/04/13/the-myth-of-one-china/

ghostcluster 9y ago
"Han is a social construct" doesn't change the fact that they operate as a de facto ethnostate that keeps foreigners out and their more phenotypically distinct ethnic minorities out of power.

baybal2 9y ago

>Foreigners cannot become citizens even if they marry a native Chinese and contribute to their economy. Well, there are a "whopping" 1500 new naturalised citizens since the passage of 1998 citizenship law :)