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LIDAR has severe range limitations, such that it's basically unusable for highway speed driving (or at least did, <mumble> years ago when I worked on autonomous
by mandevil 9y ago
LIDAR has severe range limitations, such that it's basically unusable for highway speed driving (or at least did, <mumble> years ago when I worked on autonomous driving), which is why Tesla doesn't use LIDAR.
Looking at Thrun et al.'s paper on Stanley (https://www-cs.stanford.edu/people/dstavens/jfr06/thrun_etal_jfr06.pdf https://www-cs.stanford.edu/people/dstavens/jfr06/thrun_etal...):
"The effective maximum range at which obstacles can
be detected with the laser mapper is approximately
22 m. This range is sufficient for Stanley to reliably
avoid obstacles at speeds up to 25 mph. Based on the
2004 Race Course, the development team estimated
that Stanley would need to reach speeds of 35 mph in
order to successfully complete the challenge. To extend
the sensor range enough to allow safe driving at
35 mph, Stanley uses a color camera to find drivable
surfaces at ranges exceeding that of the laser analysis."
They built a neural network to analyze terrain and find safe paths- and trained it driving at 25 mph across the environment with the LIDAR providing the control- and then let it work at higher speeds where the LIDAR would be able to panic stop but not much more.
- giobox 9y agoI may be way off base here, but hasn't the LIDAR field evolved enormously since 2006 (date of that paper)? Last I read prototype solid state LIDAR systems have ranges in the ~150m range, although I don't follow this field all that closely. Given that the major players like Waymo/Uber/Apple etc seem to be betting very heavily on LIDAR, one would assume these challenges are being resolved. I suspect the traditionally very high cost of LIDAR was likely a much bigger factor in Tesla's decision not to use, rather than any technical reason. Cameras plus radar is vastly cheaper to ship for now.