> I hate all this cloak and dagger stuff, to be honest. I'm sure most agree. But the purpose of the obfuscation is to make the jobs of those who wish to abuse

> I hate all this cloak and dagger stuff, to be honest. I'm sure most agree. But the purpose of the obfuscation is to make the jobs of those who wish to abuse the system harder. So we, normal users, are trading the inconvenience of an opaque system in exchange for (hopefully) a less abused system. I'm willing to make that trade and, as the sibling points out, you might as well flag/vouch/vote/downvote and let dang and company do as they please with the data you've offered them. Personally, as long as HN continues to be better than Reddit, for the kind of discussions I come here for, I will continue to participate regardless of the underlying system.