Nobody outside of Tesla appear to buy the idea that a car without LIDAR can be fully autonomous within a relevant timeline. I mean, sure, maybe we'll solve ful

Nobody outside of Tesla appear to buy the idea that a car without LIDAR can be fully autonomous within a relevant timeline. I mean, sure, maybe we'll solve fully autonomy with only the limited sensors on a Tesla in 20 years, but question whether you will still have a car you buy tomorrow 20 years from now. Tesla claims that they can do it with the sensors they have, but please do note that none of the other autonomous vehicle players -- many of whom appear to have much more sophisticated offerings than Tesla -- think it can be done.