You mistook my example, altho I should admit I made it really easy to do so. My example was intended to illustrate that discussion can only come when active, p

You mistook my example, altho I should admit I made it really easy to do so. My example was intended to illustrate that discussion can only come when active, physical violence ceases. I can say I'm no alien to being bullied or wishing some certain people just stopped existing. With the example I meant that the means to this big of an impact should be removed first (i.e. the more rapid guns, or all guns altogether, I don't know much about them really), so that the impact is lower. Then, in a safer environment, the society can be "healed", because changing a society does take a long time. If bullying is so ingrained in your culture, rising up as a nation will not fix it overnight. Feminists have been rising up everywhere around the globe since nearly a century by now, and still even the most developed countries have huge troubles WRT norms, rules, rights, freedoms and public views related to gender, social and biological. Same story with climate change. This problem is very particular and probably it's caused not by a single reason but by the general way the society functions. It's easy to forget that a society is made up of individuals and that quite a bit of them should be convinced to change things this ingrained. In the meantime, not allowing people to have machines that can kill multiple people in moments is a nice precaution.