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Fort Worth and Albuquerque give them jobs to clean up streets. In Fort Worth, they pay $10 per hour and provide housing. This would be similar - and a good idea

Fort Worth and Albuquerque give them jobs to clean up streets. In Fort Worth, they pay $10 per hour and provide housing. This would be similar - and a good idea, I think.

jpttsn 9y ago
Would you personally pay this, or is it only a good idea if it’s someone else’s money?
- maym86 9y ago
  I would happily contribute through taxes.
  - jpttsn 9y ago
    If you’re happy to contribute already, why bother with all that admin? “I would love to spare some change, but my hands are tied until the corresponding bill passes the senate.”
- grasshopperpurp 9y ago
  As maym86 said, I'd be happy to contribute to the pool of resources that would allow something like this to be sustainable. Would you not? >The city pays for it. The shelter runs it. "It is a win-win," said Presbyterian Night Shelter CEO Toby Owen. "We want a clean neighborhood that speaks hope, that speaks dignity to our homeless guests. And it also provides income for these individuals so they can move out and be successful without living in a homeless shelter." Last year, Clean Slate put 40 homeless people to work, Owen said. Approximately 3,856 tons of trash was collected by Clean Slate workers. And they don't just clean up trash on the street -- they also work as janitors for businesses. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fort-Worth-Pays-Homeless-People-to-Pick-Up-Trash-470183833.html https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fort-Worth-Pays-Homeless-P...
  - jpttsn 9y ago
    There's a difference between paying a $10 hourly wage and contributing to a pool of resources. I'm guessing my own contribution would be far less than $10 per hour if this were tax financed. If you and I can agree to each pay $5/h, maybe let's start there and find other people who also want to pay? Wouldn't that be better?
    - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
      Kind of an a-la-carte approach to civic responsibilities? I can envision ways in which it'd work, and people would feel better about it (in general) than they do taxes. It seems like something like this would work best at a local level, which would obviously apply to the particular example we're discussing. In theory, I'd be on board with it, as long as federal programs/taxes remained. If you found a way to implement it on a larger scale, I'd be surprised/impressed.
      - jpttsn 9y ago
        But why should it be surprising? So many people advocate for change just like you do; what mechanism could keep the idealism from being realizable?

Fort Worth and Albuquerque give them jobs to clean up streets. In Fort Worth, they pay $10 per hour and provide housing. This would be similar - and a good idea, I think.

jpttsn 9y ago

Would you personally pay this, or is it only a good idea if it’s someone else’s money?

maym86 9y ago
I would happily contribute through taxes.
- jpttsn 9y ago
  If you’re happy to contribute already, why bother with all that admin? “I would love to spare some change, but my hands are tied until the corresponding bill passes the senate.”
grasshopperpurp 9y ago
As maym86 said, I'd be happy to contribute to the pool of resources that would allow something like this to be sustainable. Would you not? >The city pays for it. The shelter runs it. "It is a win-win," said Presbyterian Night Shelter CEO Toby Owen. "We want a clean neighborhood that speaks hope, that speaks dignity to our homeless guests. And it also provides income for these individuals so they can move out and be successful without living in a homeless shelter." Last year, Clean Slate put 40 homeless people to work, Owen said. Approximately 3,856 tons of trash was collected by Clean Slate workers. And they don't just clean up trash on the street -- they also work as janitors for businesses. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fort-Worth-Pays-Homeless-People-to-Pick-Up-Trash-470183833.html https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fort-Worth-Pays-Homeless-P...
- jpttsn 9y ago
  There's a difference between paying a $10 hourly wage and contributing to a pool of resources. I'm guessing my own contribution would be far less than $10 per hour if this were tax financed. If you and I can agree to each pay $5/h, maybe let's start there and find other people who also want to pay? Wouldn't that be better?
  - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
    Kind of an a-la-carte approach to civic responsibilities? I can envision ways in which it'd work, and people would feel better about it (in general) than they do taxes. It seems like something like this would work best at a local level, which would obviously apply to the particular example we're discussing. In theory, I'd be on board with it, as long as federal programs/taxes remained. If you found a way to implement it on a larger scale, I'd be surprised/impressed.
    - jpttsn 9y ago
      But why should it be surprising? So many people advocate for change just like you do; what mechanism could keep the idealism from being realizable?