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> This shows me that you aren't actually reading what I'm writing. > What is my claim? Based on the above you don't seem to have any idea. After your comment

> This shows me that you aren't actually reading what I'm writing. > What is my claim? Based on the above you don't seem to have any idea. After your comment on me not engaging in discussion and not understanding what you said I actually sent this thread to someone that is professionally trained in debating to gain better understanding. There is no point in being right on the internet, and a learning opportunity is always worthwhile. The professional debater I sent this thread to got the same impression as me on what your line of argument was and suggested I respond in the way I did. If you mean something else then I am therefore not the only one at a loss, and like me I suggest that you introspect so that you can improve. Show this thread to someone you trust to be good at discourse and get feedback. We are all fumbling when formulating our thoughts and that is ok. What is not ok is to act rudely.

learc83 9y ago
I've been debating on internet forums since the late mid 90s, and I'm going to be completely honest with you--this takes the cake for the most absurdly petty debate tactic I have ever seen. This isn't sarcasm I am actually pretty shocked by this. Seriously? You're right because an unseen "professional debater" agrees with you?
- asabjorn 9y ago
  I give up. How did you get that from what I said? What I am talking about is process to bridge the problem of you saying your viewpoint is not getting across and how I’ve engaged in the same process. I am not saying I am right or you are wrong, I was making a constrictive suggestion on how to further the debate after I had exhausted my options for understanding what you mean by your claims being misunderstood. However, I believe the arguments I thought you made to be entirely unsupported by the facts provided although I have to trust you that your viewpoint is not getting across so commenting on that is irrelevant. As part of showing you how far I’ve gone to introspect I explained to you the lengths to which I’ve gone. I think it’s unconstructive to take offense to someone telling you how they’ve tried to show empathy and respect your feedback. Good luck with other debates and peace out.
  - learc83 9y ago
    >I think it’s unconstructive to take offense to someone telling you how they’ve tried to show empathy and respect your feedback. I'll offer you some feedback. Your previous post came across as incredibly condescending at best and as a completely bonkers debate tactic at worst. If that was a sincere attempt at displaying empathy and respect, I would work on your communication skills--maybe with someone who isn't a "professional debater".

learc83 9y ago

I've been debating on internet forums since the late mid 90s, and I'm going to be completely honest with you--this takes the cake for the most absurdly petty debate tactic I have ever seen. This isn't sarcasm I am actually pretty shocked by this. Seriously? You're right because an unseen "professional debater" agrees with you?

asabjorn 9y ago
I give up. How did you get that from what I said? What I am talking about is process to bridge the problem of you saying your viewpoint is not getting across and how I’ve engaged in the same process. I am not saying I am right or you are wrong, I was making a constrictive suggestion on how to further the debate after I had exhausted my options for understanding what you mean by your claims being misunderstood. However, I believe the arguments I thought you made to be entirely unsupported by the facts provided although I have to trust you that your viewpoint is not getting across so commenting on that is irrelevant. As part of showing you how far I’ve gone to introspect I explained to you the lengths to which I’ve gone. I think it’s unconstructive to take offense to someone telling you how they’ve tried to show empathy and respect your feedback. Good luck with other debates and peace out.
- learc83 9y ago
  >I think it’s unconstructive to take offense to someone telling you how they’ve tried to show empathy and respect your feedback. I'll offer you some feedback. Your previous post came across as incredibly condescending at best and as a completely bonkers debate tactic at worst. If that was a sincere attempt at displaying empathy and respect, I would work on your communication skills--maybe with someone who isn't a "professional debater".