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Ex-Google Employee Claims Wrongful Firing for Criticizing James Damore’s Memo
- mesozoic 9y agoIt appears his "criticism" was name calling and attempts to shut down rational discussion. Sounds like grounds for dismissal to me.
- runciblespoon 9y ago@mesozoic: 'It appears his "criticism" was name calling and attempts to shut down rational discussion. Sounds like grounds for dismissal to me' What are your sources for the above? Meanwhile we can read the original memo and make up our own minds: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-I...
- tachyoff 9y agoHow many Googlers have to get fired before people learn to just not talk about this whole thing? Don’t they have, like... work to do instead?
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- geofft 9y ago"This whole thing" is how Google attracts, recruits, and retains the best people. For a company like Google, doing a good job at that is part of their identity and mythos (other companies look to Google's hiring approaches and "people ops" model). For anyone whose job includes interviewing, managing, or reviewing, "this whole thing" is part of their work. They could just follow what the industry standard is, yes, but they wouldn't be Google if they did that. Think about it this way—you can certainly have a functioning company where people are just good at whatever programming languages exist. But you can't have a Google (or an Apple or Mozilla or Microsoft) if you don't have at least some people with opinions on how to develop programming languages, and talking / listening / reading / writing publicly about PL theory, and questioning the assumptions underlying all the common industry-standard languages, is part of their job.
- drdeadringer 9y agoDuring Some "Required Questions": How do people like James Damore, including those who in some part feel and/or think like him, get past Google's vetting process? Obviously a number do. "Obviously" given companies want some semblance of culture-wide agreement; if not obviously, what id going on?
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoWhy do companies want culture-wide agreement? Especially for one who values diversity, don't you want as varied of people as possible, so your company, in turn, sees things from as many angles as possible? I work in an environment with both strong-leaning liberals and hard right Trump supporters, but it's never been a problem for my job, or how I interact with those people, because Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have surprisingly little to do with our jobs. Most people work with people they disagree with, and most people even work with people they actively dislike. But most people also don't get fired because they don't treat the workplace like a warzone. Google chose to foster an environment of welcoming people to argue about politics at the office, something most workplaces know is best to avoid, and then was shocked at how badly that turned out.
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- uruehdhjdjd 9y agoThey only hire the brightest over there.
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- kunley 9y agoBy the way, so-called 'diversity' should also protect right-wing conservative views, not only left-wing supposedly-liberal views; otherwise it's a crap. It should protect everyone's freedom as long as those views respect the law.