> If you use a password manager with all the benefits this entails (long, random passwords, each only used for a single site), the only benefit 2FA really gives

> If you use a password manager with all the benefits this entails (long, random passwords, each only used for a single site), the only benefit 2FA really gives you is if your password manager is compromised somehow. I don't think this is true. Your long, random password can still be compromised, for example if ever type it on an insecure device (a friend's computer? public or shared computer? etc). 2FA keeps that single compromised password from being useful. It is undeniably true that storing 2FA secrets in the same vault as your passwords reduces security. However, it's still way, way better than not using 2FA at all.