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This is going to be very challenging to film...it's imagined as such a far future world. I'm sure it can be done well, but I feel like it will be a challenge an

This is going to be very challenging to film...it's imagined as such a far future world. I'm sure it can be done well, but I feel like it will be a challenge and may ruin my imagined vision.

asteli 9y ago
When I think of the Culture series, I immediately think of the descriptions of incredibly vast spacecraft, the General Systems Vehicles and whatnot. Even listening via audiobook, my imagination was able to conjure a fragment of the sensation that one gets when perceiving something with incredible scale. Similar to the sensation I got when I first gazed upon the Rocky Mountains. I'm happy that the series is getting more exposure, but at the risk of seeming curmudgeonly, the series will remain on my "watch only after reading the books" list.
- huslage 9y ago
  I just hope they don't put hulls around the GSVs...that would make me sad
  - jonathanyc 9y ago
    Damnit... that does seem like something they’d do just to show off special effects. I guess a giant ellipsoid is not super visually appealing.
atombender 9y ago
Syfy's The Expanse shows that a sci-fi adaptation can work if the original vision is fully respected and understood. The Culture novels will certainly not work as a traditional TV space opera after the Star Trek tradition. One problem is that The Culture has tech that is so futuristic that it rarely shows up in science fiction. Banks' spaceships don't have hulls; they are often described as multiple-kilometer-long, oblong, semi-translucent bubbles whose outer perimeter is maintained by "matter fields", the exteriors and interiors of which the ships can rearrange as they desire; there's no bridge, no screens, and human accommodation is also created on demand. Drones are not humanoid robots, but are more like sleek, floating geometric shapes that can manipulate the world around them with "maniple fields". Then there are the Minds, who only occasionally manifest themselves as avatars in the real world. And so on. One aspect that will be hard to get right is to accurately reflect Banks' philosophical attitude (and his books have a lot of attitude), which is cynical to the point of nihilism, even when set in a world that is broadly utopian. The inherent conflict is everywhere: On the one hand, the Culture has genetically modified themselves to be peaceful; on the other hand, it's a civilization that is constantly involved in war. The cynicism is often wryly funny; there's a lot of Douglas Adams to found in Banks' writing, and the description of the Outside Context Problem [1] is like something right out of Hitchhiker's Guide. It's not something that would be easy to portray on film, where it'd be necessary to explain backstory and explain how an AI-dominated post-scarcity society can exist that has no money and no labour force. Consider Phlebas is probably the best book to start with simply because it looks at the Culture from the outside. The show might use this to its advantage by having characters explain aspects of the Culture, such as its post-scarcity society, without being too heavy-handed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession#Outside_Context_Problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession#Outside_Context_Prob...

This is going to be very challenging to film...it's imagined as such a far future world. I'm sure it can be done well, but I feel like it will be a challenge and may ruin my imagined vision.

asteli 9y ago

When I think of the Culture series, I immediately think of the descriptions of incredibly vast spacecraft, the General Systems Vehicles and whatnot. Even listening via audiobook, my imagination was able to conjure a fragment of the sensation that one gets when perceiving something with incredible scale. Similar to the sensation I got when I first gazed upon the Rocky Mountains. I'm happy that the series is getting more exposure, but at the risk of seeming curmudgeonly, the series will remain on my "watch only after reading the books" list.

huslage 9y ago
I just hope they don't put hulls around the GSVs...that would make me sad
- jonathanyc 9y ago
  Damnit... that does seem like something they’d do just to show off special effects. I guess a giant ellipsoid is not super visually appealing.

atombender 9y ago

Syfy's The Expanse shows that a sci-fi adaptation can work if the original vision is fully respected and understood. The Culture novels will certainly not work as a traditional TV space opera after the Star Trek tradition. One problem is that The Culture has tech that is so futuristic that it rarely shows up in science fiction. Banks' spaceships don't have hulls; they are often described as multiple-kilometer-long, oblong, semi-translucent bubbles whose outer perimeter is maintained by "matter fields", the exteriors and interiors of which the ships can rearrange as they desire; there's no bridge, no screens, and human accommodation is also created on demand. Drones are not humanoid robots, but are more like sleek, floating geometric shapes that can manipulate the world around them with "maniple fields". Then there are the Minds, who only occasionally manifest themselves as avatars in the real world. And so on. One aspect that will be hard to get right is to accurately reflect Banks' philosophical attitude (and his books have a lot of attitude), which is cynical to the point of nihilism, even when set in a world that is broadly utopian. The inherent conflict is everywhere: On the one hand, the Culture has genetically modified themselves to be peaceful; on the other hand, it's a civilization that is constantly involved in war. The cynicism is often wryly funny; there's a lot of Douglas Adams to found in Banks' writing, and the description of the Outside Context Problem [1] is like something right out of Hitchhiker's Guide. It's not something that would be easy to portray on film, where it'd be necessary to explain backstory and explain how an AI-dominated post-scarcity society can exist that has no money and no labour force. Consider Phlebas is probably the best book to start with simply because it looks at the Culture from the outside. The show might use this to its advantage by having characters explain aspects of the Culture, such as its post-scarcity society, without being too heavy-handed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession#Outside_Context_Problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession#Outside_Context_Prob...