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Fast, cheap. Not thanks to net neutrality, https://netzpolitik.org/2016/sweden-the-weakest-link-in-eu-net-neutrality-reform/ https://netzpolitik.org/2016/swede

Fast, cheap. Not thanks to net neutrality, https://netzpolitik.org/2016/sweden-the-weakest-link-in-eu-net-neutrality-reform/ https://netzpolitik.org/2016/sweden-the-weakest-link-in-eu-n... Why do I suddenly feel like I've been duped? My American internet is something like 5% this fast and costs twice as much.

Mononokay 9y ago
Not thanks to Net Neutrality, sure. However, trying to say you, in America, don't benefit in both speeds and price from Net Neutrality is absurd. Corporate and social culture is vastly different, and incomparable between Europe and the States. For example, try applying your view to another issue: "Norway. Safe, sound. Not thanks to gun regulations!" Sure, Norway has roughly equivalent gun rights as the US; despite this, it's safer to a vast degree. The culture between the United States and Norway is far too different for the same rules and regulations to apply, and the outcomes of them being put in place wouldn't be particularly close to the same. The same applies to regulations on other things.
- lobster_johnson 9y ago
  Note that gun regulations are actually rather stricter in Norway than in the US. For example, automatic weapons and many high-powered guns are completely banned. That said, I do believe that the relative safety of Norway is due to other, cultural factors. (I'm Norwegian.)
  - vondur 9y ago
    Automatic weapons are also banned in the US.
    - s_m_t 9y ago
      Since 1934 automatic weapons were required to be registered with the ATF, in 1986 they stopped registering new ones. You can still get pre 1986 automatic weapons, but you have to pay out the nose for them. I don't think a registered automatic weapon has ever been used in a crime.
  - madengr 9y ago
    Despite gun laws, there was that guy who killed 100+ people, and also bombed a building.
    - chapill 9y ago
      I'm pretty sure Mononokay picked Norway specifically to derail discussion with a Breivik/gun control flame war. It only stated an opposite position and then changed the subject. Seems like a bot.

Mononokay 9y ago

Not thanks to Net Neutrality, sure. However, trying to say you, in America, don't benefit in both speeds and price from Net Neutrality is absurd. Corporate and social culture is vastly different, and incomparable between Europe and the States. For example, try applying your view to another issue: "Norway. Safe, sound. Not thanks to gun regulations!" Sure, Norway has roughly equivalent gun rights as the US; despite this, it's safer to a vast degree. The culture between the United States and Norway is far too different for the same rules and regulations to apply, and the outcomes of them being put in place wouldn't be particularly close to the same. The same applies to regulations on other things.

lobster_johnson 9y ago
Note that gun regulations are actually rather stricter in Norway than in the US. For example, automatic weapons and many high-powered guns are completely banned. That said, I do believe that the relative safety of Norway is due to other, cultural factors. (I'm Norwegian.)
- vondur 9y ago
  Automatic weapons are also banned in the US.
  - s_m_t 9y ago
    Since 1934 automatic weapons were required to be registered with the ATF, in 1986 they stopped registering new ones. You can still get pre 1986 automatic weapons, but you have to pay out the nose for them. I don't think a registered automatic weapon has ever been used in a crime.
- madengr 9y ago
  Despite gun laws, there was that guy who killed 100+ people, and also bombed a building.
  - chapill 9y ago
    I'm pretty sure Mononokay picked Norway specifically to derail discussion with a Breivik/gun control flame war. It only stated an opposite position and then changed the subject. Seems like a bot.