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Why are you equating races to be first with ideology? I do not see any connection at all. Also, I think the reasons you give are exactly why you should want t

Why are you equating races to be first with ideology? I do not see any connection at all. Also, I think the reasons you give are exactly why you should want there to be races involved, because they will help speed progress. You said they weren't vital to doing the research, and I concede that, but you haven't argued that progress will happen at the same or a faster pace without competition.

IntronExon 9y ago
I don't think that I need to given the universal stakes I’ve described. Neither you nor the original poster I replied to have explained why a much less significant “race” aspect would be helpful, and I’m not eager to adopt that burden for you. Science works best as a collaborative effort, and races breed insular teamwork. There is already tons of money tomfoht cancer, not in the least because of the fame and fortune awaiting anyone making signifanct inroads to curing cancer. So what does this additional “race” crap add that isn’t already there?
- jamesrcole 9y ago
  > Neither you nor the original poster I replied to have explained why a much less significant “race” aspect would be helpful and > Science works best as a collaborative effort, and races breed insular teamwork. The answer to these is easy: history clearly shows that competition makes a big difference, in both science and technology. Have you considered also that these collaborations often occur within a larger framework of competition between competing groups? > fame and fortune awaiting anyone making signifanct inroads to curing cancer. As I said in an earlier reply to you, this is a reason why competition is intrinsic. It's not a choice about whether you want it or not, it's going to happen, and the quoted part of your comment is pretty much admitting that. > some poxy “race” ... a much less significant “race” aspect ... what does this additional “race” crap you keep describing it in pejorative terms, without explaining why it is supposedly so bad. The only thing I can see is you mentioning "races breed insular teamwork". Do you have any evidence that races actually slow down progress, or is it just that you find the idea of them distasteful? And I'll ask again, what has competition (there being races) have to do with ideology?

IntronExon 9y ago

I don't think that I need to given the universal stakes I’ve described. Neither you nor the original poster I replied to have explained why a much less significant “race” aspect would be helpful, and I’m not eager to adopt that burden for you. Science works best as a collaborative effort, and races breed insular teamwork. There is already tons of money tomfoht cancer, not in the least because of the fame and fortune awaiting anyone making signifanct inroads to curing cancer. So what does this additional “race” crap add that isn’t already there?

jamesrcole 9y ago
> Neither you nor the original poster I replied to have explained why a much less significant “race” aspect would be helpful and > Science works best as a collaborative effort, and races breed insular teamwork. The answer to these is easy: history clearly shows that competition makes a big difference, in both science and technology. Have you considered also that these collaborations often occur within a larger framework of competition between competing groups? > fame and fortune awaiting anyone making signifanct inroads to curing cancer. As I said in an earlier reply to you, this is a reason why competition is intrinsic. It's not a choice about whether you want it or not, it's going to happen, and the quoted part of your comment is pretty much admitting that. > some poxy “race” ... a much less significant “race” aspect ... what does this additional “race” crap you keep describing it in pejorative terms, without explaining why it is supposedly so bad. The only thing I can see is you mentioning "races breed insular teamwork". Do you have any evidence that races actually slow down progress, or is it just that you find the idea of them distasteful? And I'll ask again, what has competition (there being races) have to do with ideology?