Good point about stubbornness, but rationality is not the same as benevolence. You can have rational, even entertaining discussions about the way in which you r

Good point about stubbornness, but rationality is not the same as benevolence. You can have rational, even entertaining discussions about the way in which you ruin things for your own self-interest. I have a hard time believing that anyone in the Bush administration was acting in good faith and invaded a country because nobody raised a solid counter-argument in time.