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Moving to Microsoft due to Condoleezza Rice being hired by Dropbox makes absolutely no sense. I'm not a US citizen, so I don't know about Condoleezza Rice and

Moving to Microsoft due to Condoleezza Rice being hired by Dropbox makes absolutely no sense. I'm not a US citizen, so I don't know about Condoleezza Rice and personally I don't care that much. But I do care about: 1. the Halloween documents 2. their NSA partnership 3. them being happy about censoring content on China's whims, which allegedly is also affecting international users 4. Windows 10 being a privacy nightmare 5. their ongoing racketeering practices, forcing a tax on Android phone makers for patents Yes, please lecture me on how other companies are doing it too, blah, blah, I don't care as these are things that have a measurable impact on my everyday life. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually not boycotting Microsoft, I just choose not to use them given the choice. And I would use OneDrive given its price, if it would be reliable, but it isn't. I tried it multiple times actually, always noticing unacceptable limitations or bugs. And so your choice is dubious at best.

acct1771 9y ago
Halloween documents?
- bad_user 9y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
  - oblio 9y ago
    That was in 1998, give it a break. I'm not saying that they're perfect now, but they're definitely better :)
    - bad_user 9y ago
      Oh right, the "Microsoft changed" meme. 4 out of those 5 points are ongoing and highlight that in fact Microsoft has not changed, following the same pattern. Plus I don't really care that it happened in 1998. Can't forgive that. Sorry. In society when people hurt other people, usually relationships get broken indefinitely, we don't really forgive unless it's about family or close friends. I don't see why companies should be any less different. As they say, don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. Maybe companies should think twice before doing shit.
    - Hasknewbie 9y ago
      It started in 1998. Related leaks continued until 2004 it seems. Beside these, MS have been dragged to court multiple times for unethical business practices, on both side of the Atlantic, and were found guilty, again on both sides (so it's not merely "an EU witch hunt"). The last time that I know of was in 2016 for the "malware-like forced installation of Windows 10" case. Windows 10, supposedly their latest and best, being itself technically a spyware. They're an immoral company. "Definitely better", I think not.
philliphaydon 9y ago
> And so your choice is dubious at best. Never said I trust MS, just that I trust them more than Rice.
- leshow 9y ago
  You don't trust one person on their board of directors more than all the confirmed things that the other poster mentioned about MS? That doesn't seem like a very well calculated choice.
derptron 9y ago
>I'm not a US citizen, so I don't know about Condoleezza Rice Yet you continued to give your uninformed opinion.

acct1771 9y ago

Halloween documents?

bad_user 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
- oblio 9y ago
  That was in 1998, give it a break. I'm not saying that they're perfect now, but they're definitely better :)
  - bad_user 9y ago
    Oh right, the "Microsoft changed" meme. 4 out of those 5 points are ongoing and highlight that in fact Microsoft has not changed, following the same pattern. Plus I don't really care that it happened in 1998. Can't forgive that. Sorry. In society when people hurt other people, usually relationships get broken indefinitely, we don't really forgive unless it's about family or close friends. I don't see why companies should be any less different. As they say, don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. Maybe companies should think twice before doing shit.
  - Hasknewbie 9y ago
    It started in 1998. Related leaks continued until 2004 it seems. Beside these, MS have been dragged to court multiple times for unethical business practices, on both side of the Atlantic, and were found guilty, again on both sides (so it's not merely "an EU witch hunt"). The last time that I know of was in 2016 for the "malware-like forced installation of Windows 10" case. Windows 10, supposedly their latest and best, being itself technically a spyware. They're an immoral company. "Definitely better", I think not.

philliphaydon 9y ago

> And so your choice is dubious at best. Never said I trust MS, just that I trust them more than Rice.

leshow 9y ago
You don't trust one person on their board of directors more than all the confirmed things that the other poster mentioned about MS? That doesn't seem like a very well calculated choice.

derptron 9y ago

>I'm not a US citizen, so I don't know about Condoleezza Rice Yet you continued to give your uninformed opinion.