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No, whenever I'm running 30 minutes late, whatever I did in those 30 minutes was nowhere near as important as the other person's time. It was probably something

No, whenever I'm running 30 minutes late, whatever I did in those 30 minutes was nowhere near as important as the other person's time. It was probably something that didn't deserve my time at all that day, or sometimes even any other day. Those of us who are deficient in executive function aren't "choosing to not give a damn". It's not a "choice". If you're a person who always has complete control over their actions, please consider the fact that some of us don't have that luxury, and our own lives suffer even more from it than the lives of the people who we subject to our tardiness.

devmunchies 9y ago
You make yourself sound so powerless and victimized. Surely a self-fulfilling prophecy. You do have a choice—many of them. But it sounds like you’ve made them all in advance.
- Aramgutang 9y ago
  Surely. Surely not something I've battled with great effort for a very long time. Surely not something I've sought and received treatment for. Surely it's just a choice I made. Maybe people walking around with a cast and crutches are just making themselves look "powerless and victimised". Surely.
  - devmunchies 9y ago
    You seem to be in a hole, friend. Victimization is a state of mind. You could be confined to a wheel chair but that doesn’t make you powerless.
- manmal 9y ago
  Your comment might come across a bit condescending, coming from someone who perhaps has better executive function (do you?), but I agree that victimization is a BIG problem. Eg every drug addict counselor will tell you that you cannot get better without taking ownership (not blame; that’s separate things!). The problem with low exec function is that you do not realize WHEN you have choices to make; you get sucked into an activity and forget to stop and reflect the situation. In the process you overlook chances to decide, so you get the impression that you cannot decide anything (thus the victimization). Coding does this a lot to me btw, while other activities don’t; might have to do with the amount of energy required for the task as hand. BUT you can choose to train yourself to stop in regular intervals and contemplate the current situation. Over time this will improve. I‘m also experimenting with near infrared light shone on the forehead, which for some reason does wonders for this (increasing energy available to the frontal lobe maybe?).
DoreenMichele 9y ago
Work on your health and nutritional status. One of my sons had terrible executive function. With getting healthier, he is slowly getting his act together. /anecdata

devmunchies 9y ago

You make yourself sound so powerless and victimized. Surely a self-fulfilling prophecy. You do have a choice—many of them. But it sounds like you’ve made them all in advance.

Aramgutang 9y ago
Surely. Surely not something I've battled with great effort for a very long time. Surely not something I've sought and received treatment for. Surely it's just a choice I made. Maybe people walking around with a cast and crutches are just making themselves look "powerless and victimised". Surely.
- devmunchies 9y ago
  You seem to be in a hole, friend. Victimization is a state of mind. You could be confined to a wheel chair but that doesn’t make you powerless.
manmal 9y ago
Your comment might come across a bit condescending, coming from someone who perhaps has better executive function (do you?), but I agree that victimization is a BIG problem. Eg every drug addict counselor will tell you that you cannot get better without taking ownership (not blame; that’s separate things!). The problem with low exec function is that you do not realize WHEN you have choices to make; you get sucked into an activity and forget to stop and reflect the situation. In the process you overlook chances to decide, so you get the impression that you cannot decide anything (thus the victimization). Coding does this a lot to me btw, while other activities don’t; might have to do with the amount of energy required for the task as hand. BUT you can choose to train yourself to stop in regular intervals and contemplate the current situation. Over time this will improve. I‘m also experimenting with near infrared light shone on the forehead, which for some reason does wonders for this (increasing energy available to the frontal lobe maybe?).

DoreenMichele 9y ago

Work on your health and nutritional status. One of my sons had terrible executive function. With getting healthier, he is slowly getting his act together. /anecdata