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I'm mainly concerned with people outside the car. Also, breakthrough noise is completely different from tire noise, which is why it's called "breakthrough noise

I'm mainly concerned with people outside the car. Also, breakthrough noise is completely different from tire noise, which is why it's called "breakthrough noise". Did you not notice that I said "roar"? Do tires "roar" when they aren't skidding? No. ICE's "roar". I'm totally OK with you having different preferences from me. I've met other people who think like you do, and we've had fine conversations about our personal preferences. But you're pretty much ignoring what I have to say, replacing it with your favorite preferences.

BoorishBears 9y ago
I have a Volt, I didn’t say my preference was a V12 or always a sporty car. I think you're just so set in the idea that an EV must be quieter than ICE vehicle because people who bought one want a quiet car and you’re either willing to shift goalposts to do that or you’ve been talking past me. After all: >I'm mainly concerned with people outside the car. the conversation has been about interior noise this up til now. And before when I mentioned flooring it, you responded, I responded saying both are fairly loud when floored, then you then turned around and said you weren’t talking about foooring it... There’s not much of a conversation to be had if any time I bring up a point you try and write it off by changing the context of it, then turn around and accuse me of ignoring what you’re saying... And for the record the noise in the Model S noise isn’t just tire noise, there’s the whine of the motors straining and the excessive-for-it’s-price-bracket wind noise
- greglindahl 9y ago
  I was actually concerned about exterior noise the entire time, while trying to be inclusive of your comments. But yet mystified about the "roar" you keep mentioning -- ok, now a whine and wind whistle. And I was flooring it, just not to 60. Which is what I said. I live in downtown Palo Alto, and I hear Model S flooring it from the outside and inside on a regular basis. It's subtle compared to ICE cars. Looks like we'll both end up mystified as to what the other is saying. So be it. But to get back to my original point: If you talk to Tesla owners, they're into flooring it and not making a roar. Not a wind roar, not a small engine wine, but a roar of a gas engine causing breakthrough noise.

BoorishBears 9y ago

I have a Volt, I didn’t say my preference was a V12 or always a sporty car. I think you're just so set in the idea that an EV must be quieter than ICE vehicle because people who bought one want a quiet car and you’re either willing to shift goalposts to do that or you’ve been talking past me. After all: >I'm mainly concerned with people outside the car. the conversation has been about interior noise this up til now. And before when I mentioned flooring it, you responded, I responded saying both are fairly loud when floored, then you then turned around and said you weren’t talking about foooring it... There’s not much of a conversation to be had if any time I bring up a point you try and write it off by changing the context of it, then turn around and accuse me of ignoring what you’re saying... And for the record the noise in the Model S noise isn’t just tire noise, there’s the whine of the motors straining and the excessive-for-it’s-price-bracket wind noise

greglindahl 9y ago
I was actually concerned about exterior noise the entire time, while trying to be inclusive of your comments. But yet mystified about the "roar" you keep mentioning -- ok, now a whine and wind whistle. And I was flooring it, just not to 60. Which is what I said. I live in downtown Palo Alto, and I hear Model S flooring it from the outside and inside on a regular basis. It's subtle compared to ICE cars. Looks like we'll both end up mystified as to what the other is saying. So be it. But to get back to my original point: If you talk to Tesla owners, they're into flooring it and not making a roar. Not a wind roar, not a small engine wine, but a roar of a gas engine causing breakthrough noise.