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I'm reminded of a song by Cake; Tougher Than It Is. [1] Some people are so high-strung and high-maintenance, I don't know why they do it to themselves. Perhap

I'm reminded of a song by Cake; Tougher Than It Is. [1] Some people are so high-strung and high-maintenance, I don't know why they do it to themselves. Perhaps their career path rewards this behavior, and they become so obsessed with success as defined by their career, whatever that means, that it becomes their entire identity. Because the way Thayer is approaching life sounds a whole lot like the way people behave in corporate america. Thayer Prime would probably benefit from eating some mushrooms in the forest. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjL07JQ5cLo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjL07JQ5cLo edit: By mushrooms I mean the kind that educates, not kills.

emodendroket 9y ago
> Thayer Prime would probably benefit from eating some mushrooms in the forest. Well, now, I wouldn't go so far as to wish death upon her.
- koolba 9y ago
  I think GP means the psychedelic kind.
  - emodendroket 9y ago
    I mean, foraging for mushrooms is a really dangerous hobby that's really easy to screw up and kill yourself doing, is what I was getting at it.
- newnewpdro 9y ago
  That is not at all what I was implying. Edited to clarify.
13of40 9y ago
For what it's worth, mushrooms are pretty hard to enjoy if you're a friendless 30+ alone in the forest.
- King-Aaron 9y ago
  Depends on the psilocybin content of said mushrooms.
- ShabbosGoy 9y ago
  Depends on the individual. If you’re using it for entheogenic purposes, then the forest is a great place to enjoy it. I’m reminded of the image of a Buddhist monk meditating under a waterfall in quiet contemplation.
  - 13of40 9y ago
    What I mean is sometimes you find out you're the Buddha and sometimes you find out you're a lonely, pudgy 35 year old doing drugs in the woods and wondering how you're going to come down in time to get to the office in the morning. You imagine you're going to go out and meditate in a garden full of friendly animals, but the nature of tripping is that the non-tripping mind cannot predict the experience with any kind of fidelity. Especially if you're 35 and haven't found a free day to go do it since you were 25, due to mortgages and whatnot.
    - newnewpdro 9y ago
      It's just a useful way to transport your mind into a somewhat arbitrary perspective. Often that leads to forced introspection looking back on the perspective you've come to live normally in, and that might help make some productive changes if you don't quite like or appreciate what you see.
brokenmachine 9y ago
I would just think, "this person didn't arrive on time and it pisses me off", then if they did it again, I'd be like, "I don't even want to meet this person that much - I'll just never make another meeting". Sounds like she's just put a number scale on what most people do intuitively. I don't think it's too high-strung or high-maintenance to expect people to be reasonably on-time. Disclaimer: I haven't read the article. The real good stuff is in the comments. -10 points for not reading the article for me.
- structural 9y ago
  I'd argue that obsessing about timeliness is of itself evidence of being high-strung or high-maintenance. On-time is... sometime that day. Or perhaps tomorrow. Later than that is significantly late, but why worry about an hour or two? It really is a very, very particular western culture thing to be time-obsessed: it's not specifically something that all humans do intuitively.
  - acjohnson55 9y ago
    A friend of mine moved from the East Coast to teach college in Idaho, and he made the comment that punctuality just wasn't a thing out that way. He's a historian, and he surmised that it was because Idaho never had its society fundamentally altered by industrialization and the time-keeping it required. But yeah, I try not to get hung up on other folks' timeliness, unless there's going to be a knock-on effect. I know shit happens. I bring a book so I can put my time to good use if I have to wait. An obsession with punctuality in and of itself might be a sign that a person is optimizing what's measured rather than what's actually important.
  - brokenmachine 9y ago
    > sometime that day. Or perhaps tomorrow. That would be fine, and honestly I'd be much happier if my work was like that. But my free time is limited and I have to be at work at 9am on Monday, no matter how long I wait for a selfish person to turn up. So I'm not going to sit there waiting for long...
- newnewpdro 9y ago

emodendroket 9y ago

> Thayer Prime would probably benefit from eating some mushrooms in the forest. Well, now, I wouldn't go so far as to wish death upon her.

koolba 9y ago
I think GP means the psychedelic kind.
- emodendroket 9y ago
  I mean, foraging for mushrooms is a really dangerous hobby that's really easy to screw up and kill yourself doing, is what I was getting at it.
newnewpdro 9y ago
That is not at all what I was implying. Edited to clarify.

13of40 9y ago

For what it's worth, mushrooms are pretty hard to enjoy if you're a friendless 30+ alone in the forest.

King-Aaron 9y ago
Depends on the psilocybin content of said mushrooms.
ShabbosGoy 9y ago
Depends on the individual. If you’re using it for entheogenic purposes, then the forest is a great place to enjoy it. I’m reminded of the image of a Buddhist monk meditating under a waterfall in quiet contemplation.
- 13of40 9y ago
  What I mean is sometimes you find out you're the Buddha and sometimes you find out you're a lonely, pudgy 35 year old doing drugs in the woods and wondering how you're going to come down in time to get to the office in the morning. You imagine you're going to go out and meditate in a garden full of friendly animals, but the nature of tripping is that the non-tripping mind cannot predict the experience with any kind of fidelity. Especially if you're 35 and haven't found a free day to go do it since you were 25, due to mortgages and whatnot.
  - newnewpdro 9y ago
    It's just a useful way to transport your mind into a somewhat arbitrary perspective. Often that leads to forced introspection looking back on the perspective you've come to live normally in, and that might help make some productive changes if you don't quite like or appreciate what you see.

brokenmachine 9y ago

I would just think, "this person didn't arrive on time and it pisses me off", then if they did it again, I'd be like, "I don't even want to meet this person that much - I'll just never make another meeting". Sounds like she's just put a number scale on what most people do intuitively. I don't think it's too high-strung or high-maintenance to expect people to be reasonably on-time. Disclaimer: I haven't read the article. The real good stuff is in the comments. -10 points for not reading the article for me.

structural 9y ago
I'd argue that obsessing about timeliness is of itself evidence of being high-strung or high-maintenance. On-time is... sometime that day. Or perhaps tomorrow. Later than that is significantly late, but why worry about an hour or two? It really is a very, very particular western culture thing to be time-obsessed: it's not specifically something that all humans do intuitively.
- acjohnson55 9y ago
  A friend of mine moved from the East Coast to teach college in Idaho, and he made the comment that punctuality just wasn't a thing out that way. He's a historian, and he surmised that it was because Idaho never had its society fundamentally altered by industrialization and the time-keeping it required. But yeah, I try not to get hung up on other folks' timeliness, unless there's going to be a knock-on effect. I know shit happens. I bring a book so I can put my time to good use if I have to wait. An obsession with punctuality in and of itself might be a sign that a person is optimizing what's measured rather than what's actually important.
- brokenmachine 9y ago
  > sometime that day. Or perhaps tomorrow. That would be fine, and honestly I'd be much happier if my work was like that. But my free time is limited and I have to be at work at 9am on Monday, no matter how long I wait for a selfish person to turn up. So I'm not going to sit there waiting for long...
newnewpdro 9y ago