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What I like about Waze: All the data other than the route itself, he location of speed traps most importantly. What I like about Apple Maps: The actual on-scre
by freshyill 9y ago
What I like about Waze: All the data other than the route itself, he location of speed traps most importantly.
What I like about Apple Maps: The actual on-screen navigation experience. I find it’s the clearest about which lane I need to be in.
Waze is terrible about weirdly-shaped intersections and ramps, both in the maps themselves and the instructions about where I need to be to turn/exit.
If you think all the alleys and left turns are annoying, that’s nothing. On I-270, outside DC, it often has me bouncing back and forth between the local and express lanes, for no reason. Probably because some other user nearby in each lane is going a slightly different speed.
- megy 9y ago> he location of speed traps most importantly. How in any was is that legal or ethical to have that data available.
- lolsal 9y agoWhat legal or ethical laws does it violate to have that data available?
- hokumguru 9y agoYou can buy a radar detector on amazon or $50, I'd say probably not many otherwise those would be much more regulated.
- jcranmer 9y agoI grew up in Virginia, where radar detectors are illegal. I was surprised to learn that Virginia is in fact the only US state to ban radar detectors. It's also the only state to consider going 20 over the speed limit (or over 80 even on a 70mph highway) automatic reckless driving.
- lolsal 9y agoIt's not illegal to know where police are, even if it may be illegal to operate a radar detector.
- megy 9y agoProviding this information makes it easier for people to speed in other places, making the roads a more dangerous place. This rule has definitely cost lives. If you don't think it is unethical, then what is your definition?
- CamperBob2 9y agoThis sounds like an excellent place for a [Citation Needed] tag, no pun intended.
- kimdcmason 9y agohttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0012902/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0012902/ tldr; speed traps save lives and reduce injury.
- CamperBob2 9y agoThat's a meta-analysis that doesn't focus on police activities, but rather unattended camera installations. Results of such studies have hardly been unequivocal, unlike the financial benefits to the camera operators. Setting aside the fact that you can find a pubmed link to "prove" the efficacy of almost any intervention, the original assertion -- that the roads are more dangerous when drivers are informed of the presence of cameras, police, or both -- is not addressed by this survey. As speeds have gone up, the death rate has gone down more or less steadily, at least until the last couple of years when drivers collectively decided that their cellphones are more interesting than their driving. A study that purports to exonerate speed traps must first address this rather inconvenient truth.
- gambiting 9y agoSeeing how people react to unmarked speed cameras(police on the side of the road): full brakes with zero concern what is behind them, I'd say not telling people where cameras are is far more dangerous.
- arkades 9y agoBecause, as was hashed out in court on exactly that question: the purpose of speed enforcement is to reduce speeding, not generate ticket revenue. If making people aware that they’re going to get caught speeding -makes them slow down- then the police presence is reducing the crime.
- megy 9y agoThe point is to reduce speeding everywhere, not just in a few places that have cameras. What a joke.
- monkpit 9y agoWe haven’t heard your solution to the problem yet...
- efrafa 9y agoIn europe you usuallly have warning before speedtrap. You can also hear about them in fm radio. The point is to slow down, not to get you a ticket..
- megy 9y agoThe point is to stop people speeding in every location, so how does this achieve that?
- pvg 9y agoThe point of all traffic regulations and enforcement is to improve safety. Ensuring people adhere to the limits in high-risk areas does that.
- CamperBob2 9y agoAnd if the police focused their efforts in "high-risk areas" it would be hard to make the argument that speed enforcement is all about revenue. They don't, so it's not.
- pvg 9y agoThat's a different tangent. Can enforcers abuse their enforcement privileges? Sure. Is the point of traffic regulations 'to stop people speeding in every location'? No.
- derefr 9y agoWhy not just put in speedbumps every few miles, then?
- snowwrestler 9y agoThe reason there aren't speed bumps every few miles is the same reason it's not illegal to tell each other where the speed traps are: there is tension between public support for the goal, and public annoyance at enforcement. This is also why it's not illegal to buy a car that can go 120 mph, even though there is not a single road in the U.S. with a speed limit that high.
- morsch 9y agoI don't think you can easily ban people telling each other about speed traps, and by extension having a program with similar features. But I agree that it's an unethical feature. The people who have the most interest in it are the same people who routinely exceed the speed limit -- otherwise, what's the point! Eh. If it were up to me, regular streetworthy cars would be both sensibly limited in power (say, 60 HP) and speed (say, 80 kph).