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There are some interesting ideas here, but it feels unfocused. I suspect that collaboration is where the really interesting opportunities are. To my mind, versi

There are some interesting ideas here, but it feels unfocused. I suspect that collaboration is where the really interesting opportunities are. To my mind, version control is simply one possible feature you can offer to make collaboration more fruitful. A lot of companies have interesting offerings in this space, but I haven't seen anything truly compelling yet. Perhaps the most direct competition is bundled with the tools themselves: for example, FL Studio has [edit: had] Collab and Ableton has Share. You also support LMMS. But few if any serious musicians use LMMS; it's just not a high enough quality tool. Even if you are targeting people like me -- dedicated hobbyists -- you're still more likely to want to target Ableton and FL.

AndyKelley 16y ago
Image-Line dropped support for collab, and people are sad [1]. I agree that I need to support Ableton and Cubase. I'm going to start working on more studio support right now. As for LMMS, I suppose I supported it just for fun. I've contributed to LMMS, and compared to .flp, support for it was dead simple. [1]: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?p=176830 http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?p=176830
- davepeck 16y ago
  I missed that about Collab, actually. Interesting. By the way, how do you crack the FL file format? (Or do you?)
  - AndyKelley 16y ago
    A couple things. A long time ago, the author of FL Studio made a document explaining the file format. That was version 4 or something. Since then much has changed. However Tobiass Doerrfel, the author of LMMS, did a bunch of reverse-engineering of the fl studio file format. Then I did some emailing with Didier and a guy named Frederic, who did the Fruity Wrapper (needed to get plugin names). The results are open source: http://github.com/superjoe30/PyDaw http://github.com/superjoe30/PyDaw
    - davepeck 16y ago
      That's really awesome -- have always wanted to find something like this. Thanks!

AndyKelley 16y ago

Image-Line dropped support for collab, and people are sad [1]. I agree that I need to support Ableton and Cubase. I'm going to start working on more studio support right now. As for LMMS, I suppose I supported it just for fun. I've contributed to LMMS, and compared to .flp, support for it was dead simple. [1]: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?p=176830 http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?p=176830

davepeck 16y ago
I missed that about Collab, actually. Interesting. By the way, how do you crack the FL file format? (Or do you?)
- AndyKelley 16y ago
  A couple things. A long time ago, the author of FL Studio made a document explaining the file format. That was version 4 or something. Since then much has changed. However Tobiass Doerrfel, the author of LMMS, did a bunch of reverse-engineering of the fl studio file format. Then I did some emailing with Didier and a guy named Frederic, who did the Fruity Wrapper (needed to get plugin names). The results are open source: http://github.com/superjoe30/PyDaw http://github.com/superjoe30/PyDaw
  - davepeck 16y ago
    That's really awesome -- have always wanted to find something like this. Thanks!