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This is verbalistic BS.

grzm 9y ago
Please don't be nasty. If you disagree with OP's idea, that's great. Just don't call OP or the idea BS. Let the market decide--it's ultimately smarter than you (or me).
- whitepoplar 9y ago
  Big difference between tinkering with an idea vs. tinkering with someone's bodily health, with no skin in the game.
- hestajex 9y ago
  You mean the same market the decided Justin Bieber is a good musician? The same market that allowed Hillary and Trump to pass the primaries?
  - whitepoplar 9y ago
    grzm is reposting a comment, taken out of context, from my comment history. But I'll respond anyway: the market didn't necessarily decide that Bieber is a good musician, only that he provides "value," whatever that may be--behavior, personality, music, sex appeal, etc. As for for Hillary and Trump, yep, same market ;).
    - acct1771 9y ago
      Decided? Or were led to "decide"?
  - dang 9y ago
    Please don't post off-topic flamebait to HN threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- treis 9y ago
  That's not really true. Snake oil salesman was an actual profession until government regulation. Either way, calling OP and the idea BS is part of how the market decides.
vancanwin 9y ago
Which part? So I can help be more clear.
- whitepoplar 9y ago
  > I truly understand the skepticism especially when starting this company. That's why we are putting standards and QA processes to make sure our vitamins are pure and not filled with 99% fillers as most vitamins do. The skepticism isn’t the purity of the vitamins, it’s that they work at all (and safely). > We are targeting people who have taken a step towards reducing their refine sugar, carbs, and proper exercise. Who you’re targeting isn’t relevant to the raised concern. > Our customers typically work out and eat healthy, but are finding that supplementation is working for them to reach their health goals. Please provide evidence that “supplementation is working for them.” > But if you look are high-quality liquid vitamins on the market now, it's about on average $20 per bottle per vitamin that would last you about month. And you'll probably have to buy a micro-scale to properly weight out the right amount. Steering the question away from raised concern, which is whether or not supplements are beneficial at all, not how much they cost. > The body is super complex, and at the moment, the field of nutritional science is still making strides in becoming a more validated science. Read: there’s no rigorous evidence to show that supplements are beneficial, but we’re pushing them anyway. > What we are doing is bridging this gap between research and consumers who are currently hacking and see if we as a community can provide more insights into nutritional science. Read: There’s a community of body hackers who are currently spending huge (yuge) amounts of money for supplements and we want to get in on the juicy profits.
  - berbec 9y ago
    Detailed, reasonable questions with a surprising lack of answers.

grzm 9y ago

Please don't be nasty. If you disagree with OP's idea, that's great. Just don't call OP or the idea BS. Let the market decide--it's ultimately smarter than you (or me).

whitepoplar 9y ago
Big difference between tinkering with an idea vs. tinkering with someone's bodily health, with no skin in the game.
hestajex 9y ago
You mean the same market the decided Justin Bieber is a good musician? The same market that allowed Hillary and Trump to pass the primaries?
- whitepoplar 9y ago
  grzm is reposting a comment, taken out of context, from my comment history. But I'll respond anyway: the market didn't necessarily decide that Bieber is a good musician, only that he provides "value," whatever that may be--behavior, personality, music, sex appeal, etc. As for for Hillary and Trump, yep, same market ;).
  - acct1771 9y ago
    Decided? Or were led to "decide"?
- dang 9y ago
  Please don't post off-topic flamebait to HN threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
treis 9y ago
That's not really true. Snake oil salesman was an actual profession until government regulation. Either way, calling OP and the idea BS is part of how the market decides.

vancanwin 9y ago

Which part? So I can help be more clear.

whitepoplar 9y ago
> I truly understand the skepticism especially when starting this company. That's why we are putting standards and QA processes to make sure our vitamins are pure and not filled with 99% fillers as most vitamins do. The skepticism isn’t the purity of the vitamins, it’s that they work at all (and safely). > We are targeting people who have taken a step towards reducing their refine sugar, carbs, and proper exercise. Who you’re targeting isn’t relevant to the raised concern. > Our customers typically work out and eat healthy, but are finding that supplementation is working for them to reach their health goals. Please provide evidence that “supplementation is working for them.” > But if you look are high-quality liquid vitamins on the market now, it's about on average $20 per bottle per vitamin that would last you about month. And you'll probably have to buy a micro-scale to properly weight out the right amount. Steering the question away from raised concern, which is whether or not supplements are beneficial at all, not how much they cost. > The body is super complex, and at the moment, the field of nutritional science is still making strides in becoming a more validated science. Read: there’s no rigorous evidence to show that supplements are beneficial, but we’re pushing them anyway. > What we are doing is bridging this gap between research and consumers who are currently hacking and see if we as a community can provide more insights into nutritional science. Read: There’s a community of body hackers who are currently spending huge (yuge) amounts of money for supplements and we want to get in on the juicy profits.
- berbec 9y ago
  Detailed, reasonable questions with a surprising lack of answers.