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> If you are a math undergrad how could I ever expect to know more math than you? Read through, and do all the exercises in, one textbook each for: 1. Calculu

by dsacco 9y ago

> If you are a math undergrad how could I ever expect to know more math than you? Read through, and do all the exercises in, one textbook each for: 1. Calculus 2. Linear Algebra 3. Abstract Algebra 4. Analysis 5. Topology 6. Probability Theory 7. Number Theory ...more or less in that order. Make sure your calculus book covers single variable and multivariable calculus. Supplement with applied mathematical statistics. Do that, and you have the equivalent of a mathematics undergrad (as far as relevant courses are concerned). You could even do this with something like UIllinois’ NetMath program, or some courses on Coursera. You can swap out Number Theory for Complex Analysis or deeper Probability Theory and it’d be more relevant.

jeffreyrogers 9y ago
That doesn't seem like a good use of time. I've tried reading through and doing the exercises in an abstract algebra textbook. It's a lot of work and the applicability to real world problems is virtually non-existent. I think a more targeted approach would give you a better return on your time.
- dsacco 9y ago
  Sure, I agree. Abstract algebra isn’t directly helpful. But: 1. The context is knowing more math than someone who has an undergraduate degree in it, 2. Abstract algebra is part of such a degree, and contributes significantly to overall mathematical maturity, and 3. You can avoid some subjects in the short term, but in the long term you can’t progress further without a reasonable mastery of algebra and analysis. Probability theory and linear algebra are heavily used in data science. You won’t be as competitive a candidate for a job if you don’t have a firm grasp of both subjects. At a certain point, linear algebra ceases to be distinct from abstract algebra, and those exercises you were doing become applicable to real world results.
arca_vorago 9y ago
Thank you for this list, going on the todo, along with every other relevant comment on this thread. (emacs org mode is my ds notebook and todo app)
alexbeloi 9y ago
I would amend as follows: Skip abstract algebra, topology and analysis. If you find yourself in the same room as a number theory book, walk away slowly without making eye contact lest it cast a spell on you.
- dsacco 9y ago
  If you skip analysis and at least elementary topology your understanding will be limited to discrete probability, at best. If you skip abstract algebra, you’ll miss out on a lot of buildup to advanced linear transformations and operations in vector spaces. Sure, skip number theory. Like I said, you could swap that out.
  - alexbeloi 9y ago
    You could also spend months of your life learning the intricacies of measure theory, but then every measure in probability is a positive sigma-additive unit measure. One can learn the necessary topology, analysis (etc.) in the relevant places (and the relevant depths) that they come up.

by dsacco 9y ago

jeffreyrogers 9y ago

That doesn't seem like a good use of time. I've tried reading through and doing the exercises in an abstract algebra textbook. It's a lot of work and the applicability to real world problems is virtually non-existent. I think a more targeted approach would give you a better return on your time.

dsacco 9y ago
Sure, I agree. Abstract algebra isn’t directly helpful. But: 1. The context is knowing more math than someone who has an undergraduate degree in it, 2. Abstract algebra is part of such a degree, and contributes significantly to overall mathematical maturity, and 3. You can avoid some subjects in the short term, but in the long term you can’t progress further without a reasonable mastery of algebra and analysis. Probability theory and linear algebra are heavily used in data science. You won’t be as competitive a candidate for a job if you don’t have a firm grasp of both subjects. At a certain point, linear algebra ceases to be distinct from abstract algebra, and those exercises you were doing become applicable to real world results.

arca_vorago 9y ago

Thank you for this list, going on the todo, along with every other relevant comment on this thread. (emacs org mode is my ds notebook and todo app)

alexbeloi 9y ago

I would amend as follows: Skip abstract algebra, topology and analysis. If you find yourself in the same room as a number theory book, walk away slowly without making eye contact lest it cast a spell on you.

dsacco 9y ago
If you skip analysis and at least elementary topology your understanding will be limited to discrete probability, at best. If you skip abstract algebra, you’ll miss out on a lot of buildup to advanced linear transformations and operations in vector spaces. Sure, skip number theory. Like I said, you could swap that out.
- alexbeloi 9y ago
  You could also spend months of your life learning the intricacies of measure theory, but then every measure in probability is a positive sigma-additive unit measure. One can learn the necessary topology, analysis (etc.) in the relevant places (and the relevant depths) that they come up.