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source needed. proper hydration and not overeating protein means kidneys will be fine.

by keymone 9y ago

KozmoNau7 9y ago
Keto and paleo are by definition "overeating protein".
- grzm 9y ago
  If you’re going to make a blanket statement like this, would you also provide the definitions you’re working with? Ketosis (not to be confused with ketoacidosis) is a metabolic cycle. Paleo is a diet which, while having no completely agreed upon definition that I’m aware of, often focuses on limiting grain-based sources of carbohydrates. If your definition of “overeating protein” is based on a ratio of macronutrients, that’s something that can be usefully discussed; similarly if you’re referring to some quantity of protein. As it is, you’ve stated something which really isn’t helpful in moving discussion forward.
  - KozmoNau7 9y ago
    I'm not going to argue with fanatics.
- keymone 9y ago
  just as i said - inform yourself on the topic, come arguing later. you have no idea what you're talking about. just to not leave you completely uninformed - general guideline for protein on keto is 1g per kilogram of bodyweight. i really want to see how will you argue that that is "overeating protein", especially considering that you're "deep in crossfit world".
  - KozmoNau7 9y ago
    You're welcome to stick with your pseudoscientific fad diets, it has no effect on my life.
    - keymone 9y ago
      of course you have nothing to say when factual data gets involved :) good luck
      - KozmoNau7 9y ago
        I would have something to say if you came with actual data. I've provided expert opinions that keto and Paleo are objectively bad. You've provided nothing but emotional arguments and pseudoscience.
        keymone 9y ago
        > I would have something to say if you came with actual data. the actual data is that protein consumption on keto is 1g per kilogram of bodyweight. the question is why do you think that is "overeating protein", and if you don't - you're obviously thinking of a different number and the question becomes what it is and where did you get that number? > expert opinions that keto and Paleo are objectively bad expert opinion is by definition not objective, it's an opinion. you haven't even provided any evidence that keto is "bad". from everything you've said the only conclusion i can make is that you have no idea what keto is at all.
        KozmoNau7 9y ago
        The only positive thing keto does (as a side effect) is cut down on simple sugars. Everything else is counterproductive at best. You're putting your body in an emergency state and stressing your overall health. It can work short term, if you're conscious of the dangers (especially ketoacidosis), but it absolutely shouldn't be done on the long term, unless you have a very specific medical need (such as epilepsy). And as always, short term diets are silly and can cause more harm than good. Long term lifestyle change is what is actually needed, not short term fad diets.
        keymone 9y ago
        so still no comment on protein? unless we get to the bottom of this, everything you're saying about keto comes with a huge blinking neon sign "HAS NO IDEA WHAT KETO IS"? > emergency state nope. it's a state our bodies have evolved to survive in. there is no scientific evidence that ketosis is harmful. > if you're conscious of the dangers (especially ketoacidosis) ketoacidosis is impossible to achieve on keto diet unless you are trying VERY hard. seriously, inform yourself on the topic https://www.healthline.com/health/ketosis-vs-ketoacidosis https://www.healthline.com/health/ketosis-vs-ketoacidosis > absolutely shouldn't be done on the long term you know that because? > Long term lifestyle change is what is actually needed, not short term fad diets totally agree. the difference is that i know that keto is a valid long term lifestyle and there is no evidence of it being harmful, while the benefits i observe every day.

source needed. proper hydration and not overeating protein means kidneys will be fine.

KozmoNau7 9y ago

Keto and paleo are by definition "overeating protein".

grzm 9y ago
If you’re going to make a blanket statement like this, would you also provide the definitions you’re working with? Ketosis (not to be confused with ketoacidosis) is a metabolic cycle. Paleo is a diet which, while having no completely agreed upon definition that I’m aware of, often focuses on limiting grain-based sources of carbohydrates. If your definition of “overeating protein” is based on a ratio of macronutrients, that’s something that can be usefully discussed; similarly if you’re referring to some quantity of protein. As it is, you’ve stated something which really isn’t helpful in moving discussion forward.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  I'm not going to argue with fanatics.
keymone 9y ago
just as i said - inform yourself on the topic, come arguing later. you have no idea what you're talking about. just to not leave you completely uninformed - general guideline for protein on keto is 1g per kilogram of bodyweight. i really want to see how will you argue that that is "overeating protein", especially considering that you're "deep in crossfit world".
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  You're welcome to stick with your pseudoscientific fad diets, it has no effect on my life.
  - keymone 9y ago
    of course you have nothing to say when factual data gets involved :) good luck
    - KozmoNau7 9y ago
      I would have something to say if you came with actual data. I've provided expert opinions that keto and Paleo are objectively bad. You've provided nothing but emotional arguments and pseudoscience.
      - keymone 9y ago
        > I would have something to say if you came with actual data. the actual data is that protein consumption on keto is 1g per kilogram of bodyweight. the question is why do you think that is "overeating protein", and if you don't - you're obviously thinking of a different number and the question becomes what it is and where did you get that number? > expert opinions that keto and Paleo are objectively bad expert opinion is by definition not objective, it's an opinion. you haven't even provided any evidence that keto is "bad". from everything you've said the only conclusion i can make is that you have no idea what keto is at all.
        KozmoNau7 9y ago
        The only positive thing keto does (as a side effect) is cut down on simple sugars. Everything else is counterproductive at best. You're putting your body in an emergency state and stressing your overall health. It can work short term, if you're conscious of the dangers (especially ketoacidosis), but it absolutely shouldn't be done on the long term, unless you have a very specific medical need (such as epilepsy). And as always, short term diets are silly and can cause more harm than good. Long term lifestyle change is what is actually needed, not short term fad diets.
        keymone 9y ago
        so still no comment on protein? unless we get to the bottom of this, everything you're saying about keto comes with a huge blinking neon sign "HAS NO IDEA WHAT KETO IS"? > emergency state nope. it's a state our bodies have evolved to survive in. there is no scientific evidence that ketosis is harmful. > if you're conscious of the dangers (especially ketoacidosis) ketoacidosis is impossible to achieve on keto diet unless you are trying VERY hard. seriously, inform yourself on the topic https://www.healthline.com/health/ketosis-vs-ketoacidosis https://www.healthline.com/health/ketosis-vs-ketoacidosis > absolutely shouldn't be done on the long term you know that because? > Long term lifestyle change is what is actually needed, not short term fad diets totally agree. the difference is that i know that keto is a valid long term lifestyle and there is no evidence of it being harmful, while the benefits i observe every day.