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I think it's a combination of tax breaks and subsidies that are at play here along with high taxes on ICE vehicles. Not just on the purchase price, in some Eur

by kokey 9y ago

I think it's a combination of tax breaks and subsidies that are at play here along with high taxes on ICE vehicles. Not just on the purchase price, in some European countries for cars with engine sizes well over 2.0l it totals up to €12000 in road tax to keep it on the road for 5 years.

tyfon 9y ago
No petrol tax, no VAT, no toll fee, free travel by public ferries, free parking on public spots, travel in bus lanes... There are tons of reasons to get a Tesla in Norway at least (or a leaf/e-golf). I tried a Tesla S but it was rattling in all the joins and windows and felt like a very poor build so I passed, but I hope some of the others pick up the slack soon like Audi or Mercedes. By 2025 it will not be legal to sell new petrol or diesel cars anymore[1] here, but I actually want an electric car that goes 500 km. I just want a well built one. [1] https://www.tu.no/artikler/fossilbilene-skal-fases-ut-i-2025/347825 https://www.tu.no/artikler/fossilbilene-skal-fases-ut-i-2025...
- semi-extrinsic 9y ago
  It will still be legal to sell plug-in hybrids, so the "ban" is just political posturing anyways. E.g. Volvo has stated they will shift all their models to plug-in hybrids well before 2025, so you can still buy your big mainly-petrol XC90 in 20 years time. And by then, all of the perks you mention, like free parking, free ferries, driving in bus lanes, free road tax, they will all be gone even for electric cars. Jeremy Clarkson predicted this whole shitshow perfectly way back when he said he was going to start a car company that put 9V batteries in Hummers and sold them as hybrids. It's pretty infuriating from an environmental perspective though. On a constructive note, have you considered the new Mercedes or BMW plug-ins, like the C350e or the 530e? Realistically you'll get 30 km electric range on one charge, but for many that's enough (or close) for day-to-day driving. By 2025, that's probably doubled (or more). Then you just drive on petrol for your longer trips.

by kokey 9y ago

tyfon 9y ago

No petrol tax, no VAT, no toll fee, free travel by public ferries, free parking on public spots, travel in bus lanes... There are tons of reasons to get a Tesla in Norway at least (or a leaf/e-golf). I tried a Tesla S but it was rattling in all the joins and windows and felt like a very poor build so I passed, but I hope some of the others pick up the slack soon like Audi or Mercedes. By 2025 it will not be legal to sell new petrol or diesel cars anymore[1] here, but I actually want an electric car that goes 500 km. I just want a well built one. [1] https://www.tu.no/artikler/fossilbilene-skal-fases-ut-i-2025/347825 https://www.tu.no/artikler/fossilbilene-skal-fases-ut-i-2025...

semi-extrinsic 9y ago
It will still be legal to sell plug-in hybrids, so the "ban" is just political posturing anyways. E.g. Volvo has stated they will shift all their models to plug-in hybrids well before 2025, so you can still buy your big mainly-petrol XC90 in 20 years time. And by then, all of the perks you mention, like free parking, free ferries, driving in bus lanes, free road tax, they will all be gone even for electric cars. Jeremy Clarkson predicted this whole shitshow perfectly way back when he said he was going to start a car company that put 9V batteries in Hummers and sold them as hybrids. It's pretty infuriating from an environmental perspective though. On a constructive note, have you considered the new Mercedes or BMW plug-ins, like the C350e or the 530e? Realistically you'll get 30 km electric range on one charge, but for many that's enough (or close) for day-to-day driving. By 2025, that's probably doubled (or more). Then you just drive on petrol for your longer trips.