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> keto diet is widely acknowledged to be a bad choice "Keto Is Ranked the Worst Diet by Health Experts" are those the same "experts" that have been recommendi

> keto diet is widely acknowledged to be a bad choice "Keto Is Ranked the Worst Diet by Health Experts" are those the same "experts" that have been recommending people to reduce their fat intake for the last 4 decades, effectively increasing sugar consumption and being responbsible for literally millions of dead people around the world? sorry if i won't take you seriously anymore.

KozmoNau7 9y ago
These are the experts on the panel: https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/experts https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/experts The overall consensus used to be that fat was bad, but science has advanced and our view on the subject is a lot more nuanced than "fat bad". Clinical dieticians and other experts have updated their recommendations accordingly. That's how science works, we continually improve our collective knowledge. Going completely off the rails and jumping on fad diets instead is not a wise choice. The current recommendation of a diet heavy in plants, low in saturated fat, moderate in carbs (complex carbs, ditch the simple ones) is perfectly sound, a good average diet for the average person.
- keymone 9y ago
  > Going completely off the rails and jumping on fad diets instead is not a wise choice it seems your opinion on how to tell which diet is fad is based not on research but on a quick google search. inform yourself on the topic, then we can argue. > The current recommendation of a diet heavy in plants, low in saturated fat, moderate in carbs (complex carbs, ditch the simple ones) is perfectly sound, a good average diet for the average person except none of what you said makes the keto diet bad. i can grant you that it's not recommended for average person mainly because it requires a lot of knowledge and discipline to be following properly, but the rest is bs.
  - KozmoNau7 9y ago
    Keto is definitely a fad diet, same as Atkins, paleo and a ton of others. I'm deep in the crossfit world, and I definitely did look at keto and paleo, before an actual dietician talked some sense into me. Ketosis is a medical condition that is potentially harmful and even deadly in some cases. You absolutely should not go into ketosis without qualified medical assistance.
    - keymone 9y ago
      > Ketosis is a medical condition that is potentially harmful and even deadly in some cases it is not compatible with certain diseases or other medical conditions, but blanket statement like that is bullshit.
      - KozmoNau7 9y ago
        There is a very real risk of kidney damage, if not supervised by a medical professional.
        keymone 9y ago
        source needed. proper hydration and not overeating protein means kidneys will be fine.
        KozmoNau7 9y ago
        Keto and paleo are by definition "overeating protein".
        grzm 9y ago
        If you’re going to make a blanket statement like this, would you also provide the definitions you’re working with? Ketosis (not to be confused with ketoacidosis) is a metabolic cycle. Paleo is a diet which, while having no completely agreed upon definition that I’m aware of, often focuses on limiting grain-based sources of carbohydrates. If your definition of “overeating protein” is based on a ratio of macronutrients, that’s something that can be usefully discussed; similarly if you’re referring to some quantity of protein. As it is, you’ve stated something which really isn’t helpful in moving discussion forward.
        KozmoNau7 9y ago
        I'm not going to argue with fanatics.

KozmoNau7 9y ago

These are the experts on the panel: https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/experts https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/experts The overall consensus used to be that fat was bad, but science has advanced and our view on the subject is a lot more nuanced than "fat bad". Clinical dieticians and other experts have updated their recommendations accordingly. That's how science works, we continually improve our collective knowledge. Going completely off the rails and jumping on fad diets instead is not a wise choice. The current recommendation of a diet heavy in plants, low in saturated fat, moderate in carbs (complex carbs, ditch the simple ones) is perfectly sound, a good average diet for the average person.

keymone 9y ago
> Going completely off the rails and jumping on fad diets instead is not a wise choice it seems your opinion on how to tell which diet is fad is based not on research but on a quick google search. inform yourself on the topic, then we can argue. > The current recommendation of a diet heavy in plants, low in saturated fat, moderate in carbs (complex carbs, ditch the simple ones) is perfectly sound, a good average diet for the average person except none of what you said makes the keto diet bad. i can grant you that it's not recommended for average person mainly because it requires a lot of knowledge and discipline to be following properly, but the rest is bs.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  Keto is definitely a fad diet, same as Atkins, paleo and a ton of others. I'm deep in the crossfit world, and I definitely did look at keto and paleo, before an actual dietician talked some sense into me. Ketosis is a medical condition that is potentially harmful and even deadly in some cases. You absolutely should not go into ketosis without qualified medical assistance.
  - keymone 9y ago
    > Ketosis is a medical condition that is potentially harmful and even deadly in some cases it is not compatible with certain diseases or other medical conditions, but blanket statement like that is bullshit.
    - KozmoNau7 9y ago
      There is a very real risk of kidney damage, if not supervised by a medical professional.
      - keymone 9y ago
        source needed. proper hydration and not overeating protein means kidneys will be fine.
        KozmoNau7 9y ago
        Keto and paleo are by definition "overeating protein".
        grzm 9y ago
        If you’re going to make a blanket statement like this, would you also provide the definitions you’re working with? Ketosis (not to be confused with ketoacidosis) is a metabolic cycle. Paleo is a diet which, while having no completely agreed upon definition that I’m aware of, often focuses on limiting grain-based sources of carbohydrates. If your definition of “overeating protein” is based on a ratio of macronutrients, that’s something that can be usefully discussed; similarly if you’re referring to some quantity of protein. As it is, you’ve stated something which really isn’t helpful in moving discussion forward.
        KozmoNau7 9y ago
        I'm not going to argue with fanatics.