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I suppose premium in Europe is luxury in the USA. Isn’t a 7 series BMW about $140k USD?

by madengr 9y ago

xversilov 9y ago
Yeah, nobody buys a 7 series to drive themselves. The 5 series is BMW's driver flagship, IMO.
- sorenjan 9y ago
  Never seen a 7-series that wasn't driven by the owner.
  - dingaling 9y ago
    My local council had one chauffeur-driven for the Mayor and associates until the need for a more 'austere' public image saw it being replaced by a Skoda Octavia ( Jetta / Golf platform ). I think the Mayor of Belfast still rides in the back of a 7.
  - TomMarius 9y ago
    Not the base one, that's true. The "Lang" versions are made for sitting on the back seat.
- ryanlol 9y ago
  This may be true in China, but not most other countries.
- alkonaut 9y ago
  The "I don't drive myself"-version of e.g. the Audi A8 is the A8L. Same for the BMW 7. (At least they used to have e.g. the 740L). But both the S-class and the 7-series are very VERY rare luxury cars. I see thousands of 5-series and E-classes for every 7-series or S-class. The difference in price must be huge in europe compared to the US, because there I saw tons of 7-series and S-class was almost as common as E-class.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    Yes, the price difference is huge. E class is common as a taxi here, base price for a consumer model is 55K Euros, S class nearly double that.
    - alkonaut 9y ago
      What’s the reason (apart from tradition making people think it’s normal) the proce difference between these models is so big in the EU and not in the US?
      - jacquesm 9y ago
        Taxes. I drive a 15 year old car, I would not want to waste money on a new one. My car cost about 14% of what it was new with 55K km on the clock and is in a much cheaper tax bracket than a new one. It's a ridiculous system.
blotto 9y ago
In the US a 7 starts at $83,100 - https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+7+series+msrp&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+7+series+msrp&ie=utf-8&o....
- jacquesm 9y ago
  For comparison, in NL they start at 105,000 Euros ($130K), in Germany at 87,000 Euros ($107K).

I suppose premium in Europe is luxury in the USA. Isn’t a 7 series BMW about $140k USD?

xversilov 9y ago

Yeah, nobody buys a 7 series to drive themselves. The 5 series is BMW's driver flagship, IMO.

sorenjan 9y ago
Never seen a 7-series that wasn't driven by the owner.
- dingaling 9y ago
  My local council had one chauffeur-driven for the Mayor and associates until the need for a more 'austere' public image saw it being replaced by a Skoda Octavia ( Jetta / Golf platform ). I think the Mayor of Belfast still rides in the back of a 7.
- TomMarius 9y ago
  Not the base one, that's true. The "Lang" versions are made for sitting on the back seat.
ryanlol 9y ago
This may be true in China, but not most other countries.
alkonaut 9y ago
The "I don't drive myself"-version of e.g. the Audi A8 is the A8L. Same for the BMW 7. (At least they used to have e.g. the 740L). But both the S-class and the 7-series are very VERY rare luxury cars. I see thousands of 5-series and E-classes for every 7-series or S-class. The difference in price must be huge in europe compared to the US, because there I saw tons of 7-series and S-class was almost as common as E-class.
- jacquesm 9y ago
  Yes, the price difference is huge. E class is common as a taxi here, base price for a consumer model is 55K Euros, S class nearly double that.
  - alkonaut 9y ago
    What’s the reason (apart from tradition making people think it’s normal) the proce difference between these models is so big in the EU and not in the US?
    - jacquesm 9y ago
      Taxes. I drive a 15 year old car, I would not want to waste money on a new one. My car cost about 14% of what it was new with 55K km on the clock and is in a much cheaper tax bracket than a new one. It's a ridiculous system.

blotto 9y ago

In the US a 7 starts at $83,100 - https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+7+series+msrp&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+7+series+msrp&ie=utf-8&o....

jacquesm 9y ago
For comparison, in NL they start at 105,000 Euros ($130K), in Germany at 87,000 Euros ($107K).