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Presumaby you mean Bolshevism but that really depends on your parameters for evaluation. Presumably the author in this case wasn’t talking about economic princi
by rusk 9y ago
Presumaby you mean Bolshevism but that really depends on your parameters for evaluation. Presumably the author in this case wasn’t talking about economic principles ...
- gadders 9y agoActually, I was trying to defend Ayn Rand-style libertarianism, but it just goes to show how people's perspective differs.
- edpazu 9y agoOne should never miss an opportunity to paint libertarians and Nazis with the same brush. /s
- Letmesleep69 9y agoI feel like these comments are not very productive. Bit too strawman for my taste. and if you paint them as inspired by Nietzsche you're not wrong.
- edpazu 9y agoLibertarians are not Nazis. Full Stop.
- rusk 9y agoNo, but like Nazis they are, shall we say prone to a certain class of delusion borne of over-rationalisation to the point that their expectations of what's best for the world and what is (more empirically, and thus harder) actually best for the world diverge dramatically. In all cases there's a certain kind of lazy theology at play, in that all you need is a simple kernal of an idea and the details will look after themselves, to whit: - Libertarianism: Everyone look after themselves and we'll be okay. - Naziism: Lets just look after ourselves and we'll be okay. - Fascism: Lets put the weak in their place and we'll be okay. - Bolshevism: Let's just make sure everyone has the same stuff and we'll be okay. Each and every one notwithstanding the fact that reality is always for more nuanced.
- optimuspaul 9y agothat is one that I occasionally struggle with. I am fairly liberal but I find the absolutist attitudes that many libertarians have to be naive and often repugnant. I don't think it's a stretch at all to place them in the same bucket as those other groups. They all have taken simple defensible ideas to extremes and tend to offer no compromises.
- gadders 9y agoWell, you could order those groups by death toll? I'm not aware of Ayn Rand-style Libertarianism killing people.
- JoeAltmaier 9y agoOpposition to building codes? vaccination? pretty much any organized effort to make society safer (or avoid societal catastrophe)? Libertarianism is pretty much "the tragedy of the commons" as a political ideal.
- AndrewDucker 9y agoThe US healthcare system definitely leads to more death than other developed nations, and the arguments against fixing it are generally Randian in nature.
- interfixus 9y agoAs St. Randall of Munroe has put it: I had a hard time with Ayn Rand because I found myself enthusiastically agreeing with the first 90% of every sentence, but getting lost at 'therefore, be a huge asshole to everyone'.