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The problem is every time a bee fly on or off your field you are committing copyright infringement.

by dvh 9y ago

NoGravitas 9y ago
Or in the case of maize, whenever the wind blows.
nottorp 9y ago
Or the wind carries seeds from the adjacent field... or... or... Looks simply too risky for me. Health reasons aside, you're becoming dependent on the GMO producer.
- planteen 9y ago
  Citation needed. This is listed as a myth in a NPR article about GMOs: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/to...
  - yorwba 9y ago
    That article says that Monsanto hasn't sued when only trace amounts of patented genes are found, not that growing plants with the patented gene (due to pollination or otherwise) without permission doesn't constitute patent infringement.
  - 33W 9y ago
    That was a good read, I had heard previously about the Canadian farmer who was sued for having the roundup-ready gene is his canola. Taking a look at the court record, it shows that it was a bit more intentional: https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/38991/index.do https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/38991... [39] In an attempt to determine why the plants had survived the herbicide spraying, Mr. Schmeiser conducted a test in field 2. Using his sprayer, he sprayed, with Roundup herbicide, a section of that field in a strip along the road. He made two passes with his sprayer set to spray 40 feet, the first weaving between and around the power poles, and the second beyond but adjacent to the first pass in the field, and parallel to the power poles. This was said by him to be some three to four acres in all, or "a good three acres". After some days, approximately 60% of the plants earlier sprayed had persisted and continued to grow. Mr. Schmeiser testified that these plants grew in clumps which were thickest near the road and began to thin as one moved farther into the field. [40] Despite this result Mr. Schmeiser continued to work field 2, and, at harvest, Carlysle Moritz, on instruction from Mr. Schmeiser, swathed and combined field 2. He included swaths from the surviving canola seed along the roadside in the first load of seed in the combine which he emptied into an old Ford truck located in the field. That truck was covered with a tarp and later it was towed to one of Mr. Schmeiser's outbuildings at Bruno. In the spring of 1998 the seed from the old Ford truck was taken by Mr. Schmeiser in another truck to the Humboldt Flour Mill ("HFM") for treatment. After that, Mr. Schmeiser's testimony is that the treated seed was mixed with some bin-run seed and fertilizer and then used for planting his 1998 canola crop.
    - wavefunction 9y ago
      The argument is often made that GMOs are simply a sped-up process of the sort of guided evolution carried out by farmers since the start of agriculture so I find it hard to sympathize when the GMO proponents sue a farmer for doing exactly that.
oldcynic 9y ago
That's OK, farmers using Monsanto product are sorting out those pirates^H^H^H bees too.
a_bonobo 9y ago
That is, frankly, bullshit. For a rebuttal of that myth see npr: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/to... This dates back to a time where a farmer planted 95% GM canola on his field without a license, and when Monsanto told him that he had no right to do so he said it all blew onto his field.
- phkahler 9y ago
  That doesn't change the fact that they tried to sue him. And to correct the parent post, it's patent infringement not copyright violation.

The problem is every time a bee fly on or off your field you are committing copyright infringement.

by dvh 9y ago

The problem is every time a bee fly on or off your field you are committing copyright infringement.

NoGravitas 9y ago

Or in the case of maize, whenever the wind blows.

nottorp 9y ago

Or the wind carries seeds from the adjacent field... or... or... Looks simply too risky for me. Health reasons aside, you're becoming dependent on the GMO producer.

planteen 9y ago
Citation needed. This is listed as a myth in a NPR article about GMOs: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/to...
- yorwba 9y ago
  That article says that Monsanto hasn't sued when only trace amounts of patented genes are found, not that growing plants with the patented gene (due to pollination or otherwise) without permission doesn't constitute patent infringement.
- 33W 9y ago
  That was a good read, I had heard previously about the Canadian farmer who was sued for having the roundup-ready gene is his canola. Taking a look at the court record, it shows that it was a bit more intentional: https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/38991/index.do https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/38991... [39] In an attempt to determine why the plants had survived the herbicide spraying, Mr. Schmeiser conducted a test in field 2. Using his sprayer, he sprayed, with Roundup herbicide, a section of that field in a strip along the road. He made two passes with his sprayer set to spray 40 feet, the first weaving between and around the power poles, and the second beyond but adjacent to the first pass in the field, and parallel to the power poles. This was said by him to be some three to four acres in all, or "a good three acres". After some days, approximately 60% of the plants earlier sprayed had persisted and continued to grow. Mr. Schmeiser testified that these plants grew in clumps which were thickest near the road and began to thin as one moved farther into the field. [40] Despite this result Mr. Schmeiser continued to work field 2, and, at harvest, Carlysle Moritz, on instruction from Mr. Schmeiser, swathed and combined field 2. He included swaths from the surviving canola seed along the roadside in the first load of seed in the combine which he emptied into an old Ford truck located in the field. That truck was covered with a tarp and later it was towed to one of Mr. Schmeiser's outbuildings at Bruno. In the spring of 1998 the seed from the old Ford truck was taken by Mr. Schmeiser in another truck to the Humboldt Flour Mill ("HFM") for treatment. After that, Mr. Schmeiser's testimony is that the treated seed was mixed with some bin-run seed and fertilizer and then used for planting his 1998 canola crop.
  - wavefunction 9y ago
    The argument is often made that GMOs are simply a sped-up process of the sort of guided evolution carried out by farmers since the start of agriculture so I find it hard to sympathize when the GMO proponents sue a farmer for doing exactly that.

oldcynic 9y ago

That's OK, farmers using Monsanto product are sorting out those pirates^H^H^H bees too.

a_bonobo 9y ago

That is, frankly, bullshit. For a rebuttal of that myth see npr: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/to... This dates back to a time where a farmer planted 95% GM canola on his field without a license, and when Monsanto told him that he had no right to do so he said it all blew onto his field.

phkahler 9y ago
That doesn't change the fact that they tried to sue him. And to correct the parent post, it's patent infringement not copyright violation.