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And how many of them are in those positions because their professorship was advertised as being exclusively for white men only? How many of them were unqualifi
by peoplewindow 9y ago
And how many of them are in those positions because their professorship was advertised as being exclusively for white men only?
How many of them were unqualified, but given the job over a more qualified woman, just because they were a man?
I'm sure there are cases of that happening, somewhere. But I can point to multiple examples in the past year alone of jobs being advertised explicitly and in writing as not being open to white men. I do not recall ever seeing jobs being advertised as not open to women.
As it is, you're pointing at a disparity and implying - but not even outright stating - that it must be due to bias, or that white men can't possibly be being attacked or can't possibly fear for their careers, merely because there are a lot of them.
Would you have made the same sorts of arguments about black slaves, on the grounds that there were loads of non-enslaved blacks in Africa at the time of the slave ships, so clearly they couldn't be that oppressed. I mean just look at the quantities. Clearly you would not have made that argument because it'd be bogus. Merely having a common attribute doesn't imply you can't be oppressed.
- scarface74 9y agoYou can speak anecdotally all day long. But can you show studies where controlling for all other variables, white men are less likely to get jobs, promotions, raises, leases mortgages, accepted into college, etc.?
- leereeves 9y agoMen are only about 40% of college students. Male unemployment is higher. I have no data on the others.
- scarface74 9y agoThat’s not what I asked. Can you find studies where equally qualified white men were denied opportunities, controlling for all other variables suffered harm because of their color or gender? I can post studies where the opposite has happened in housing, hiring, and the criminal justice system.
- leereeves 9y agoWho would do or fund such a study? Women outnumber men in college by 50%, and almost nobody sees a problem with that. Men vastly outnumber women among the homeless, prisoners, accidental deaths, etc, and nobody cares about that either. Nobody in power cares enough about less fortunate men to support any studies that might show what obstacles they face.
- JoeAltmaier 9y agoI see it around a fraction of 1%? http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/ http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
- leereeves 9y agoThat's because of the Baby Boomers. Among people in college now, nearly 60% of students/graduates are women. If nothing is done to increase male enrollment, the statistic you quoted (% of population with college degrees) will change to match this inequality fairly quickly.
- scarface74 9y agoAgain what is suppose to "be done"? Government intervention? Affirmative Action for the oppressed male? Whatever happened to the Reaganesque "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" and "rugged individuslism"? Conservatives have been telling minority and women that for years.
- leereeves 9y agoApparently I've been censored and rate-limited, so I can't continue this discussion. Why not? Leftists want equality of outcome, right? Why does that exclude college enrollment, unemployment, dangerous work, etc? Response to below: Would people on HN really be all over these studies? Or would they be censored as I have been? And I just posted a study for you in our other comment chain, since you demand it so persistently. I hope you're reading these edits...