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Yes! a while back I had a consolation with a NHS specialist renal dietician and asked about lo salt versions of food /condiments. They sniffed and said the low

Yes! a while back I had a consolation with a NHS specialist renal dietician and asked about lo salt versions of food /condiments. They sniffed and said the low salt movement has been very well marketed but what they don't tell you is the "shit" they put in to food to replace the salt - which is actually worse than salt - same with these low fat spreads

KozmoNau7 9y ago
Low fat "light" products generally add sugar or various combinations of binders, in order to mimic the original consistency and taste. They are universally all crap, when compared to the originals.
BeetleB 9y ago
>They sniffed and said the low salt movement has been very well marketed but what they don't tell you is the "shit" they put in to food to replace the salt - which is actually worse than salt - same with these low fat spreads I'm eternally annoyed by statements like these: Low salt diet is bad because it is replaced by things worse than salt. Low sugar diet is bad because artificial sweeteners are worse. Low fat diet is bad because replacing them with carbs is worse. Gluten free diets are bad because the substitutes are full of artificial, weight gaining stuff. Butter alternatives/margarine are bad because their replaced by unhealthy low fat spreads (e.g. full of partially hydrogenated oils until recently). All of these statements are wrong. You can always get any of these without the harmful substitutes. People who want to eat healthy can do any of the above diets without the worse alternatives. I myself went on a low sodium diet once, and I did not buy stuff with junk in them to substitute. Not even KCl. You can get healthy butter alternatives. These arguments usually show a giant leap in the logical process. These are false dichotomies. Yet way too many people I know believe these arguments. My guess is: Most of them are accepting of the arguments because it is convenience - not because the claims are true. It gives them a license to continue on unhealthy diets.
- walshemj 9y ago
  Yes but if a professional who deals with renal patients says it as mine did ? I am going to take their advice over Jamie Oliver et al? I actually reduced salt by using other spices
  - BeetleB 9y ago
    I'm having trouble seeing your point. Your earlier comment said: >They sniffed and said the low salt movement has been very well marketed but what they don't tell you is the "shit" they put in to food to replace the salt - which is actually worse than salt This sounds like he/she is against salt alternatives. And then you go and say: >I actually reduced salt by using other spices Which is what a number of salt alternatives do. So are low salt alternatives good or bad?
    - walshemj 9y ago
      er no it was chemicals they add to lo salt foods to replace nacl - not using more pepper and other spices which is standard advice for chronic renal failure patients
      - BeetleB 9y ago
        I have no idea what the usual advice is to chronic renal failure patients. I do know there are easy to find salt alternatives out there that do not have chemicals and do replace salt with other spices. (Some are low salt, and not no salt). As in, you can find them in your grocery store. And most people who are on a low salt diet are not renal failure patients. They are people with hypertension. So er yes a number of salt alternatives out there are just fine. And er yes a number of them are pretty bad for you. And statements like "salt alternative products are bad for you because they replace salt with chemicals" are inaccurate.
  - exhilaration 9y ago
    You might be interested in this article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-t... "The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science"
liveoneggs 9y ago
that's too bad. I really like Mrs Dash

KozmoNau7 9y ago

Low fat "light" products generally add sugar or various combinations of binders, in order to mimic the original consistency and taste. They are universally all crap, when compared to the originals.

BeetleB 9y ago

>They sniffed and said the low salt movement has been very well marketed but what they don't tell you is the "shit" they put in to food to replace the salt - which is actually worse than salt - same with these low fat spreads I'm eternally annoyed by statements like these: Low salt diet is bad because it is replaced by things worse than salt. Low sugar diet is bad because artificial sweeteners are worse. Low fat diet is bad because replacing them with carbs is worse. Gluten free diets are bad because the substitutes are full of artificial, weight gaining stuff. Butter alternatives/margarine are bad because their replaced by unhealthy low fat spreads (e.g. full of partially hydrogenated oils until recently). All of these statements are wrong. You can always get any of these without the harmful substitutes. People who want to eat healthy can do any of the above diets without the worse alternatives. I myself went on a low sodium diet once, and I did not buy stuff with junk in them to substitute. Not even KCl. You can get healthy butter alternatives. These arguments usually show a giant leap in the logical process. These are false dichotomies. Yet way too many people I know believe these arguments. My guess is: Most of them are accepting of the arguments because it is convenience - not because the claims are true. It gives them a license to continue on unhealthy diets.

walshemj 9y ago
Yes but if a professional who deals with renal patients says it as mine did ? I am going to take their advice over Jamie Oliver et al? I actually reduced salt by using other spices
- BeetleB 9y ago
  I'm having trouble seeing your point. Your earlier comment said: >They sniffed and said the low salt movement has been very well marketed but what they don't tell you is the "shit" they put in to food to replace the salt - which is actually worse than salt This sounds like he/she is against salt alternatives. And then you go and say: >I actually reduced salt by using other spices Which is what a number of salt alternatives do. So are low salt alternatives good or bad?
  - walshemj 9y ago
    er no it was chemicals they add to lo salt foods to replace nacl - not using more pepper and other spices which is standard advice for chronic renal failure patients
    - BeetleB 9y ago
      I have no idea what the usual advice is to chronic renal failure patients. I do know there are easy to find salt alternatives out there that do not have chemicals and do replace salt with other spices. (Some are low salt, and not no salt). As in, you can find them in your grocery store. And most people who are on a low salt diet are not renal failure patients. They are people with hypertension. So er yes a number of salt alternatives out there are just fine. And er yes a number of them are pretty bad for you. And statements like "salt alternative products are bad for you because they replace salt with chemicals" are inaccurate.
- exhilaration 9y ago
  You might be interested in this article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-t... "The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science"

liveoneggs 9y ago

that's too bad. I really like Mrs Dash