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please don't provide such lazy sources for your broad generalizations. I would challenge you to provide a study that used WHOLE fruit as the variable (not fruit

by shlant 9y ago

please don't provide such lazy sources for your broad generalizations. I would challenge you to provide a study that used WHOLE fruit as the variable (not fruit juice or sugar alone) and showed it had a negative effect on insulin response. In an effort to do as I say, here are some studies/articles showing the opposite: 1. http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1002279 http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jou... 2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3836143/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3836143/ 3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3978819/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3978819/ 4. http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/dont-be-afraid-fruit http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/...

keymone 9y ago
what is your point? fruits are infinitely better than sugar. fruits still contain sugar, which is why it is recommended not to drink too much fruit juice. what specifically are you contesting about the claim that sugar causes insulin spikes?
- shlant 9y ago
  It seems like you didn't read your own post. > sugar is never good for you Fruits contain sugar, fruits are very good for you. Does that answer "what is your point?" The OP of the thread said "Fruits are high in naturally-occurring sugars and they are among the healthiest things you can eat." That's what we are discussing. > which is why it is recommended not to drink too much fruit juice. Nobody is talking about fruit juice in this thread.
  - keymone 9y ago
    fruits are good because of things that sugar doesn't have. and it seems you haven't read my comment past the first sentence, because i specifically wrote about fruits there.
    - shlant 9y ago
      > fruits are good because of things that sugar doesn't have. > sugar is never good for you You are contradicting yourself. Would you like to amend your original statement? > and it seems you haven't read my comment past the first sentence, because i specifically wrote about fruits there. I am not refuting the fact that our diets have too much sugar. I am only addressing the sweeping generalizing that "sugar is never good for you".
      - keymone 9y ago
        > Would you like to amend your original statement? no. sugar is never good for you. fruits are good because of stuff that is not sugar. there is no contradiction.
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by shlant 9y ago

keymone 9y ago

what is your point? fruits are infinitely better than sugar. fruits still contain sugar, which is why it is recommended not to drink too much fruit juice. what specifically are you contesting about the claim that sugar causes insulin spikes?

shlant 9y ago
It seems like you didn't read your own post. > sugar is never good for you Fruits contain sugar, fruits are very good for you. Does that answer "what is your point?" The OP of the thread said "Fruits are high in naturally-occurring sugars and they are among the healthiest things you can eat." That's what we are discussing. > which is why it is recommended not to drink too much fruit juice. Nobody is talking about fruit juice in this thread.
- keymone 9y ago
  fruits are good because of things that sugar doesn't have. and it seems you haven't read my comment past the first sentence, because i specifically wrote about fruits there.
  - shlant 9y ago
    > fruits are good because of things that sugar doesn't have. > sugar is never good for you You are contradicting yourself. Would you like to amend your original statement? > and it seems you haven't read my comment past the first sentence, because i specifically wrote about fruits there. I am not refuting the fact that our diets have too much sugar. I am only addressing the sweeping generalizing that "sugar is never good for you".
    - keymone 9y ago
      > Would you like to amend your original statement? no. sugar is never good for you. fruits are good because of stuff that is not sugar. there is no contradiction.
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