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So, people keep refuting your core assertion here, and you keep moving the goalposts to different arguments. I want to see you support and expand on your argum

So, people keep refuting your core assertion here, and you keep moving the goalposts to different arguments. I want to see you support and expand on your argument that people only try to suppress ideas that they fear are correct. Are you literally saying that anti-Nazis secretly fear that Jews run the world? That gay rights activists secretly fear that homosexuality is a depraved plot to destroy our moral fibre? If not, then what are you saying?

millermp12 9y ago
Paul Graham said it best (without saying it). http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html Sam Altman recently said the same, that in several ways freedom of expression is healthier in China today than in the bay area. And for that matter, Shakespeare, "the lady doth protest too much." Sometimes even burning down the university at the faintest glimmer of the bogeyman.
skookumchuck 9y ago
We all know people who go to great lengths, despite all contrary evidence, to prove themselves correct. Like the convict who was exonerated by DNA evidence, yet the prosecutor still insists he was guilty. Like the pastor who insists that his flock close their ears to any contrary viewpoints. Like the authoritarian societies who jail anyone daring to question them. Etc. Just think of the beliefs you hold dear. What would you do if someone produced evidence that you were wrong? You'd be a very rare person to accept it and change your mind. Remember the physicists (including Einstein) who could not accept quantum mechanics?
- PhasmaFelis 9y ago
  > Just think of the beliefs you hold dear. What would you do if someone produced evidence that you were wrong? It is literally impossible to produce solid, well-supported evidence that homosexuality is a Satanic plot. It is exactly as likely as Flat Earth. And you're still evading the question. Do you, or do you not, believe that dedicated gay rights activists secretly fear the above is true? Yes or no, please.

millermp12 9y ago

Paul Graham said it best (without saying it). http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html Sam Altman recently said the same, that in several ways freedom of expression is healthier in China today than in the bay area. And for that matter, Shakespeare, "the lady doth protest too much." Sometimes even burning down the university at the faintest glimmer of the bogeyman.

skookumchuck 9y ago

We all know people who go to great lengths, despite all contrary evidence, to prove themselves correct. Like the convict who was exonerated by DNA evidence, yet the prosecutor still insists he was guilty. Like the pastor who insists that his flock close their ears to any contrary viewpoints. Like the authoritarian societies who jail anyone daring to question them. Etc. Just think of the beliefs you hold dear. What would you do if someone produced evidence that you were wrong? You'd be a very rare person to accept it and change your mind. Remember the physicists (including Einstein) who could not accept quantum mechanics?

PhasmaFelis 9y ago
> Just think of the beliefs you hold dear. What would you do if someone produced evidence that you were wrong? It is literally impossible to produce solid, well-supported evidence that homosexuality is a Satanic plot. It is exactly as likely as Flat Earth. And you're still evading the question. Do you, or do you not, believe that dedicated gay rights activists secretly fear the above is true? Yes or no, please.