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All of this cloud data will eventually be funneled into your social credit score ("Sesame Credit"). This is already happening. Chinese individuals are being ost
by hnzix 9y ago
All of this cloud data will eventually be funneled into your social credit score ("Sesame Credit"). This is already happening. Chinese individuals are being ostracized from personal and professional relations because of their score.
China invented whuffie, but in the most dystopian and fascist way possible.
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Edit with citations as requested. (I'm not asserting that this social pressure is universal or even common yet.)
[0] https://www.wired.com/story/age-of-social-credit/ https://www.wired.com/story/age-of-social-credit/
She explained how to boost my score. “They will check what kind of friends you have,” she said. “If your friends are all high-score people, it’s good for you. If you have some bad-credit people as friends, it’s not nice.”
[1] https://theconversation.com/chinas-social-credit-system-puts-its-people-under-pressure-to-be-model-citizens-89963 https://theconversation.com/chinas-social-credit-system-puts...
“Since last December, the National Development and Reform Commission and Central Bank of China began to approve pilot plans to integrate big data with the Social Credit System. As one of China’s first pilot provinces, Guizhou province was selected to showcase a government-led experiment of a big data-empowered Social Credit System.”
Australia, for example now lowers your credit score if you pay bills late. But it doesn't (yet?) penalize you for who you associate with.
- logicchains 9y ago>Chinese individuals are being ostracized from personal and professional relations because of their score. Citation needed. I live in China, and not a single person I know takes the Zhima Credit score even remotely seriously. It's treated like a joke, or at worst like one's astrological sign. Many older people I've met don't even know about it. Chinese people aren't stupid, they're not going to let some easily gamed virtual points influence their decisions.
- contingencies 9y agoDitto (live in China, never heard of it being applied). Anyway, in the US you would have opaque bank and private industry credit agencies which are basically performing the same function. I believe the government priorities (political security, social stability, reduced corruption) are potentially a better starting point than private sector priorities (profit), even if (as is inevitable) they screw up the infosec side and people's data is easily accessible on the black market through thousands of government employees.
- hnzix 9y agoI've added citations to my parent comment. It's being rolled out further in Guizhou. I think it's a novel way to combat corruption, but the potential for overall social control is chilling. "Sorry, Mobike does not rent to dissidents."