Agreed. Assuming you're talking about phone apps (as opposed to baseband or sensor control etc); software for phones has much more in common with desktop softwa

Agreed. Assuming you're talking about phone apps (as opposed to baseband or sensor control etc); software for phones has much more in common with desktop software than it does with the embedded world, you just have to be a little bit more conscious about your power and data usage. In my embedded work I pushed a few years back to upgrade the microcontrollers we used from 2kB to 16kB RAM and 16kB to 128kB flash devices (at a grand total extra cost of $2) so I could stop worrying about how we would fit all the new features in. My personal line for "embedded" at the point where you take responsibility for the OS functionality too. IMHO that's currently somewhere around Raspberry Pi etc devices, which on one level have computing power in line with the smartphone world, but on the other you're still mucking around with the OS yourself. I know it's pure snobbery on my behalf, but I still cringe to think about Node.js running on them... (even though I'm doing it myself for hobbyist level stuff).