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Agreed, they're well-intentioned, but the minute they're OK with a few innocent victims in their pursuit of the guilty, I'm no longer on board.
by oneshot908 9y ago
Agreed, they're well-intentioned, but the minute they're OK with a few innocent victims in their pursuit of the guilty, I'm no longer on board.
- psyc 9y agoIt’s so absurd to me. Like, I agree with them on every actual issue, but I want nothing to do with their activism because they appear to be raging, absolutist jerks to everyone including other liberals.
- tomlock 9y agoI think we see it through a lens of what gets upvoted and shared, and the actual irl people involved in these movements and the activism aren't the caricatures we see online.
- stcredzero 9y agoWhat happened to James Damore and the surrounding events read just like other over the top SJW shenanigans.
- tomlock 9y agoSure, but the over the top SJW shenanigans are shared and upvoted somewhere, amirite? Or is this all based on SJWs you know in real life?
- stcredzero 9y agoOr is this all based on SJWs you know in real life? This is based on what I've seen online and what has happened to me, personally.
- tomlock 9y agoWhat happened to you?
- stcredzero 9y agoI know what it means to be targeted. That's what happened to me.
- psyc 9y agoIf someone advocates for violence on Twitter, as themselves, and they aren't trolling or making a joke, is that person not real, or are the words not their own? If I see a violent protest on YouTube, did it not also happen IRL?
- tomlock 9y ago30 years ago were people similarly advocating for violence or conducting violent protests, which people at the time didn't see shared or upvoted, thereby creating the perception today that there's some huge rising problem when in fact the only thing that has changed is the availability and visibility of material?
- IntronExon 9y agoIs this based on personal experience, news reports, internet activity, or a combo? Edit: I’m not sure why I expected a different answer...
- stcredzero 9y agothey appear to be raging, absolutist jerks to everyone including other liberals I've been a liberal practically since birth. They have been raging, absolutist jerks to me, personally.
- stcredzero 9y agothe minute they're OK with a few innocent victims in their pursuit of the guilty, I'm no longer on board. The minute anyone is OK with innocent victims in their pursuit, then that's social injustice -- almost by definition!
- kazinator 9y agoJustice systems, by and large, are OK with some non-zero probability of innocent victims. Sentences are handed down with rationalizations like "beyond the shadow of a doubt" which is not absolute certainty.
- stcredzero 9y agoBut at least the good ones try, and try quite hard, to avoid collateral damage. Some Social Justice advocates are actually for the dismantling of the presumption of innocence and due process. Some Social Justice advocates effectively argue that their goals are so important, they shouldn't even try to avoid collateral damage. That in itself is a datapoint, as to whether they really stand for justice.