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> The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? TheCoelocanth already beat me to it, but this article doesn't do
by bmm6o 9y ago
> The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women?
TheCoelocanth already beat me to it, but this article doesn't do any celebrating about the "end of men". It's very sympathetic about how the changing US economy has gutted many traditionally-male fields. And in so far as support for Trump is driven by the economic uncertainty of men, it does a lot to explain that component. But your original claim is ridiculous. I don't have a lot of free time right now, do any of your links honestly support your argument?
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- leereeves 9y agoIt's a shame you don't have any free time. If you did, I'd recommend searching for "the future is female" and seeing how deep the rabbit hole goes. But since you don't, what exactly do you expect me to say here that will convince you in 30 seconds?
- scarface74 9y agoIf you search for any loaded term on Google it will lead to confirmation bias. Can you find any stats showing that a White male has a harder time in America getting a job, getting a loan, getting a mortgage or lease, getting into college, etc than an equally qualified non White male?
- leereeves 9y agoConfirmation bias? Hillary Clinton said that after the election. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-future-is-female-hillary-clinton-says-in-first-post-inauguration-statement-135749907.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-future-is-female-hillary-clin... If we agree that's a loaded term, perhaps we can also agree that in terms of dividing people by race and gender, Trump isn't so different from many leaders on the left. He's merely the first Republican who plays the game of identity politics that the left has played for so long. I think it's a terrible shame that the dream of a race-blind, gender-blind society was abandoned...but the left, not Trump, is to blame for that.
- scarface74 9y ago“the first republican that plays identity politics”? Have you ever heard of the “Southern Strategy”?
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- leereeves 9y agoI've heard of it. It's BS. It was a Republican, Eisenhower, who sent the army to enforce school integration after the Brown v Board of Education decision. Nixon [often accused of this "Southern Strategy"] was Vice President at the time. And a much higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409 But the Democrats are certainly good at rewriting history in their favor.
- scarface74 9y agoYes and after Lyndon Johnson - a Democrat signed the civil rights act, the south turned against the Democratic Party. But here is the southern Strategy in Lee Atwater’s own words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ And you have heard of Strom Thurman haven’t you?
- leereeves 9y agoYes, I've heard of Strom Thurman. One of three Southern Democrats who switched parties, I believe. I've also heard of the many racist Southern Democrats who opposed civil rights and remained Democrats after 1964 (many much longer), including: John Stennis, Herman Talmadge, James Eastland, Allen Ellender, Russell Long, John Sparkman, John McClellan, Richard Russell, George Wallace, Lester Maddox, John Rarick, Robert Byrd, and Al Gore, Sr.
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- bmm6o 9y agoThe Atlantic article was quite long and I read it in a good-faith effort to follow up on your citations, so you can drop the condescension. Elsewhere you concede that it's not the celebratory article you promised, so at least we agree about that.
- bmm6o 9y agoAnd as for "how deep the rabbit hole goes", well, I'm shocked - shocked! - that it's possible to find extreme views online.